Acacia In The News Again Today

jonas · 02-14-2003

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030214/140038_1.html

Mutt · 02-14-2003

wonder if the 8 adult companies who paid the blood money were small fries or big guys or were part of the group led by Holio which is going to fight it.

Is that group going to stick together and pay for each other's legal costs? Or is it just a group to trade info and give support to each other?

ACACIA

kath · 02-14-2003

Good questions - I hope they stick together.

Remember....give 'em an inch and they'll take the whole mile. I wouldn't think that giving in at this stage of the game would be good.

Then again...I don't have any inside info. Anyone hear from Holio or Far-L?

Danny_C · 02-14-2003

I'm disappointed so many have caved in.

PornoDoggy · 02-14-2003

Did that group attract anybody other than people Acacia had threatened directly?

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Did that group attract anybody other than people Acacia had threatened directly?

pretty sure no.

Mike AI · 02-14-2003

Had to be small companies....

That or Acacia made some long term sweetheart deals in order to get them to sign on. Something like, hey we will let you pay $1 a year but sign a contract accepting our patent. Then they will use these contracts, or deals ( not the money part) to try and bring in other people.

Cocksuckers!

sextoyking · 02-14-2003

Patent Extortion

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Has Acacia actually filed suit against anyone or are they still in the sending out letters and hoping for capitulation stage?

I'm surprised that no one who might be affected, especially if they've already received the threatening letter, isn't busy digging up whatever dirt they can find on Acacia.

Once a suit is filed and discovery starts, some VERY nasty things are all open season during the process. It doesn't matter whether it's admissable in court, something the other side would even want to use in court, it is the kind of thing that by becoming public knowledge can do damage to companies and reputations...

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Acacia is going to court
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-984698.html?tag=fd_top

Anyone knows which companies are being sued?

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The difference here is that ACACIA is not a small company. They have tons of money to fight for this pontential goldmine...(Or at least cause severe financial damage to their opponents)

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Yep. just thought it was interesting... another example of people trying to leech off of other people's hard work.

I know of a few companies who were sued.. at least i'm assuming, holio, homegrown, was jmm's company one of the ones named to?

who were the remaining 37?

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"The firms include several large independent adult content providers, including Vivid Video, Wicked Interactive, Holio.net, and New Frontier Media"

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973...3,767313,00.asp

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I wonder how long the process will go on before companies cave in.
So Acacia is prepared to sue 37 companies in separate law suits? That's alot of dough. Can't a court decide that only one case will be heard cuz it's basically the same case against everybody? Seems like a waste of taxpayers money to have this case made more than once. If they lose, everybody can breathe a sigh of relief and watch Acacia go the appeal route - if Acacia wins, pay the license and move on.

Not really sure how this works when one company is suing many companies for the same thing. It's a class action lawsuit in reverse.

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I think this has been posted already but in case it has not:

"My company (www.gcomm.com) was the FIRST to come out w/ online video streaming (for adult) and even pre-web (dial-up), that I think constitutes "prior-art" which invalidates patents. I don't particulary care for the adult industry (wasn't in charge when that stuff was developed), but I care even less for those who try to screw others with BS patent suits. Do you know who I can contact about this? please reply to sysop@gcomm.com because I probably won't come this way again..."

That's from the discussion to the article above.

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i remember Gcomm, made graphical BBS software like Wildcat and the others, me and a friend were looking at their webcam stuff before I knew the adult Net biz existed, it does go back a long time. In fact I think joee ran a live girl chat thing before he discovered the money was going to be in paysite/affiliate programs and they used that Gcomm live streaming software.

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I would like to ask a question here 'cause I'm wondering.

Isn't there an abandoned patent law somewhere on the books?

How can they enforce a claim after abandoned especially when they are not the original patent holders?

I seem to have come across something like this when doing research a few years ago.
These Acacia people have abandoned these patents for at least 5 (maybe more) years while the Internet grew and are now trying to collect on the abandoned claim.

If these patents (If they apply at all) would have been enforced since the begining just maybe the companies being sued would have developed other technologies to use instead.

Food for thought!!!

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Mutt Members Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,087	wonder if the 8 adult companies who paid the blood money were small fries or big guys or were part of the group led by Holio which is going to fight it. Is that group going to stick together and pay for each other's legal costs? Or is it just a group to trade info and give support to each other? ACACIA

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kath Members Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: California, USA Posts: 1,340	Good questions - I hope they stick together. Remember....give 'em an inch and they'll take the whole mile. I wouldn't think that giving in at this stage of the game would be good. Then again...I don't have any inside info. Anyone hear from Holio or Far-L?