Toby...

[Rcourt64]

SET 1

14K


and then theres set 2


thanks for your comments and thoughts

[Toby]

Well, I'm afraid I can't tell you much more than you probably already know. Based on the shape and decor, SET 1 most likely dates from the 1960's, give or take a few years.

SET 2 is more difficult since that kind of work has been done off and on in Europe and then here in the US for 150 to 200 years. The shape seems more contemporary to me, but you'd be better served having someone local take a look so they could examine it first hand.

In my opinion SET 2 has more potential to have some collectible value.

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

SET 1

14K


and then theres set 2


thanks for your comments and thoughts

[Rcourt64]

Really? set 2 huh? why? ...because of its stained dyed color?

[Toby]

Set 1 was most likely mass produced and is from an era that really isn't all that collectible yet.

The value of Set 2 really depends on how that coloration was obtained. If it's an applied decoration added after the glass was made it will have far less value than if the coloration is actually part of the glass making process.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Toby

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The value of Set 2 really depends on how that coloration was obtained. If it's an applied decoration added after the glass was made it will have far less value than if the coloration is actually part of the glass making process.

how do I tell? who do I ask?

[softball]

I think set one is Russian

[Toby]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I think set one is Russian

I suppose it's possible, if it was purchased outside the use and brought back by an individual.

There was also a fair amount of glass imported into the US from Romania in the 1980's, but it was all blown glass. Set 1 looks like pressed glass (molded) to me.

Without more detailed provenance I'm still leaning to US manufacture.

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

how do I tell? who do I ask?

Find a large Antique Mall in your area and phone them. Ask if they have a dealer that is knowledgable about art glass, that you have a decanter set you're interested in selling. They'll likely put you in touch with someone that has the knowledge to know what you have once they've had a first hand look.

[softball]

I lived in Russia for years and that shit was everywhere. It could well have been made in Romania.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I lived in Russia for years and that shit was everywhere. It could well have been made in Romania.

wouldn't it have an engraved or pressed seal or marking somewhere to identify its origin? kinda like old school china

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

wouldn't it have an engraved or pressed seal or marking somewhere to identify its origin? kinda like old school china

It probably had a paper/foil label that was long ago removed.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Toby

It probably had a paper/foil label that was long ago removed.

Those cheap fucking kommies.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

wouldn't it have an engraved or pressed seal or marking somewhere to identify its origin? kinda like old school china

if it is Russian, you might look closely at the decoration and you might see kinda hidden some Cyrilic script...possibly on the side. Sometimes it just looks like the decoration if you don't know what you are looking at