How to get the point across to you LM.....

[sarettah]

The best way I guess is to say that the thumbs I saw made anything sexed ever did look quite normal. These were beyond the realm of bad taste into the realm of appearing quite blatantly illegal, the type of stuff that years ago made me stop surfing alt.binaries.

There is no defense of them.

They needed to come down and I could care less who's feet got stepped on in he process.

[LadyMischief]

I'm not defending them.. I just would like to see them. Are we talking now about thumbs of underage-looking girls? Or sick sexual acts? I am inciting discussion and simply offering other opinions and outlooks. What I saw MYSELF wasn't offensive/illegal on a general scale, I would LOVE to see what you saw for myself too so I can put the word out, so to speak.

Stop being so convinced I'm on a "side" here and see that I am simply presenting more food for thought. No situation is what it seems on the surface, there are always MULTIPLE factors contributing to a conclusion.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by sarettah

They needed to come down and I could care less who's feet got stepped on in he process.

My only fear in the situation is the implications for the fuure. Who's to say it will stop at teen? With the current political environment in the US and the world, MY biggest concern is that if people give the inch, the government (and others like registrars) will ASSUME the mile. It's not so much about content (I am as disgusted with CP as you are), it's about the principle of the issue at heart. THe way things were handled could open the path for a lot more problems in the future for people who are legitimate as well as illegitimate, if you catch my meaning.

[softball]

"There is no defense of them."

There is always a defense. Even OJ was entitled to that. This is a question of ethics. Things are not always as they appear. Responsiblity is sometimes misplaced. There are principles of British Common Law that we all should live by. Otherwise we have cross burnings, book burnings, and lynch mobs.
I am saying jumping to conclusions leads to misjudgements.
So are you part of the mob or are you for free speech and the rule of law?

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

"There is no defense of them."

There is always a defense. Even OJ was entitled to that. This is a question of ethics. Things are not always as they appear. Responsiblity is sometimes misplaced. There are principles of British Common Law that we all should live by. Otherwise we have cross burnings, book burnings, and lynch mobs.
I am saying jumping to conclusions leads to misjudgements.
So are you part of the mob or are you for free speech and the rule of law?

Switching subjects slightly....

But it is ok to jump to conclusions about directnic and their actions, right?

[softball]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Switching subjects slightly....

But it is ok to jump to conclusions about directnic and their actions, right?

The difference is, that they are not suffering a business closure. Nor are they making any kind of defense of said actions. They are the ones that appear to be acting as judge and jury. If there is pressure being applied, then they should be singing this loudly because it is not the appropriate way of dealing with the situation. If this is a business decision, well shame on them. Could you suggest other options?

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

So are you part of the mob or are you for free speech and the rule of law?

I am completely for free speech. Rule of law does not always please me as patience is not one of my virtues

[softball]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I am completely for free speech. Rule of law does not always please me as patience is not one of my virtues

Shoot first and ask questions later? I would suggest you are in favour of free speech when it suits your needs or is convenient.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I am completely for free speech. Rule of law does not always please me as patience is not one of my virtues

I don't think you could convince me even for ONE second that if this SAME thing happened in a way that COULD potentially directly affect your own business (and honestly, this can open the pandora's box on ALL adult, as if anyone would simply stop at teen) that you wouldn't take a personal interest in the way things went down. You may be a developer now, but you've run sites in the past. How would your opinion of DirectNIC's actions be different if it was you it was affecting? (Not pointing fingers, again just inciting discussion)

[softball]

Personally, I think this is an old school loyalty kind of thing. Circle the waggons and the truth be damned.