I Might be Laying on a Time Bomb

gonzo · 02-10-2006

ARS / JoinRightNow / Lightspeed / Jayman Cash / Arika Ames / Sweet Money ... where do all the clicks go?

I resigned up to a JoinRightNow last week to take advantage of those RSS feeds they have. I was looking at my sponsors list to realize that there are a lot of you changing ovet to cascading scripts to handle processing.

Where do all the clicks go if I have to resign up under a new account to take advantage of your new tools?

Id be interested in hearing how you track the traffic/signups since I have to resign up.

Lightspeed was pretty damn vocal about changing over the way they did business.

In the case of ARS they say they havent deleted my accout but want to talk about it over ICQ. I havent heard from them though... I told them to feel free to hit me up since my ICQ number was on file.

Its useless for me to send traffic to a program if its not being counted or the $$$'s arent being credited. So heres a chance for you program owners to participate as opposed to drop off yet another unattended press release. Dazzle me with your techno genius and customer service.

Still think this is a place for idle chit chat?

TheEnforcer · 02-10-2006

Hmmm.. good question to be sure. Can a webmaster leave existing links in place and still get credit for their traffic or do they have to change everything?

selena · 02-10-2006

In regards to JaYMan Cash's switch from CCBill to NATS:

All old links still work. They go to the old tour, and are credited under CCBill.

All NATS links go to the new tour, and are credited via NATS.

Same thing as when we acquired marketing rights to Kat Vixen, which was an existing program. Because the principles involved are affiliates themselves, they wanted to keep things easy. So all Kat's old links still work. Affiliates that had been promoting her prior to the change were not required to go switch everything out.

~takes off affiliate manager hat~

As an affiliate, the only difference for me has been that some of my Raven stuff is paid via CCBill. Everything else is paid directly from JayMan Cash, and is tracked via NATS.

gonzo · 02-10-2006

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Originally Posted by selena

In regards to JaYMan Cash's switch from CCBill to NATS:

All old links still work. They go to the old tour, and are credited under CCBill.

All NATS links go to the new tour, and are credited via NATS.

Same thing as when we acquired marketing rights to Kat Vixen, which was an existing program. Because the principles involved are affiliates themselves, they wanted to keep things easy. So all Kat's old links still work. Affiliates that had been promoting her prior to the change were not required to go switch everything out.

~takes off affiliate manager hat~

As an affiliate, the only difference for me has been that some of my Raven stuff is paid via CCBill. Everything else is paid directly from JayMan Cash, and is tracked via NATS.

Hats off for Jayman Cash stepping up with a concise and logical answer for their program. Love the RSS feed!

nastyboy · 02-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by selena

In regards to JaYMan Cash's switch from CCBill to NATS:

All old links still work. They go to the old tour, and are credited under CCBill.

All NATS links go to the new tour, and are credited via NATS.

Same thing as when we acquired marketing rights to Kat Vixen, which was an existing program. Because the principles involved are affiliates themselves, they wanted to keep things easy. So all Kat's old links still work. Affiliates that had been promoting her prior to the change were not required to go switch everything out.

~takes off affiliate manager hat~

As an affiliate, the only difference for me has been that some of my Raven stuff is paid via CCBill. Everything else is paid directly from JayMan Cash, and is tracked via NATS.

Yup we did the same thing at XclusiveCash regarding BrandiLove and Dirty Daisy.

TheEnforcer · 02-10-2006

Thanks for coming over and inmforming the webmasters selena. I'm sure they appreciate it. Hats off to you and Jayman.

Trish · 02-10-2006

With ArikaAmes.com, it's pretty much the same thing with what Jaymancash did. All the CCBill linking codes still work and are being tracked properly and sales are still being credited. The only difference pretty much is CCBill is sending out those affiliates checks and the people who signed up for the nats program are receiving checks from me.
I remember when I first switched over to NATS and was trying to get everyone to sign up to the NATS program instead of CCBill. But really it made no difference, except having access to the add material. Most affiliates who signed up with CCBill pretty much stayed with their CCbill linking codes.

gonzo · 02-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trish

With ArikaAmes.com, it's pretty much the same thing with what Jaymancash did. All the CCBill linking codes still work and are being tracked properly and sales are still being credited. The only difference pretty much is CCBill is sending out those affiliates checks and the people who signed up for the nats program are receiving checks from me.
I remember when I first switched over to NATS and was trying to get everyone to sign up to the NATS program instead of CCBill. But really it made no difference, except having access to the add material. Most affiliates who signed up with CCBill pretty much stayed with their CCbill linking codes.

I believe you answered this for me in San Diego as well. Welcome on here incognito.

Trish · 02-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzo

I believe you answered this for me in San Diego as well. Welcome on here incognito.

Yea now that you say that, I think I remember.
And thank you. I've been lurking here a little anyway, then my boardtracker when off...lol, so figured I'd post

Peaches · 02-10-2006

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Originally Posted by gonzo

I believe you answered this for me in San Diego as well. Welcome on here incognito.

See, it's not "Tracy"

But you were close - much better than I can usually remember

gonzo · 02-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

See, it's not "Tracy"

But you were close - much better than I can usually remember

I suppose you want a Donald Duck donut now for being right?

NY_TIM · 02-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trish

With ArikaAmes.com, it's pretty much the same thing with what Jaymancash did. All the CCBill linking codes still work and are being tracked properly and sales are still being credited. The only difference pretty much is CCBill is sending out those affiliates checks and the people who signed up for the nats program are receiving checks from me.
I remember when I first switched over to NATS and was trying to get everyone to sign up to the NATS program instead of CCBill. But really it made no difference, except having access to the add material. Most affiliates who signed up with CCBill pretty much stayed with their CCbill linking codes.

You finally decided to show up huh? Are you following me

Trish · 02-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by NY_TIM

You finally decided to show up huh? Are you following me

Hello Timmy!

selena · 02-10-2006

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Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

Thanks for coming over and inmforming the webmasters selena. I'm sure they appreciate it. Hats off to you and Jayman.

My pleasure.

I just happened to be in the neighborhood anyhow.

Someday I will break down and figure out what I have done to make board tracker not work.

Hell Puppy · 02-11-2006

In most cases there is not a easy way to convert people over if you're going from a system where you cant control the entry point to a new system.

Going from a CCBill affiliate program to one such as NATS or MPA is a good example. Those clicks hit CCBill first, then get redirected. There's no practical way to pick out that traffic and redirect it to the new tracking system with affiliate tracking info intact and translated.

The most honest approach you can do is disclose that the change is coming well in advance and/or run both in parallel for a while.

That's what we've done on sites we've converted from CCBill over to Fat Fucking Cash. The old links to CCBill still work. On some of the sites we've emailed the webmasters to tell 'em it'll go away in 90 days, but we're well past 90 days in those casea and I still haven't turned it off. They dont get benefit of new tours and such, but if those links are still out there and generating traffic, I'll pay for it as long as I can stand it.

I'll continue to encourage them to move over, but in reality will probably keep it around until it becomes impractical not to.

Ultimately though if a sponsor has told you to change links, and they've given you a fair amount of time to get around to it, it's ultimately up to the webmaster to go do it. Yeah, it's a pain, but in the case of a sponsor adding cascading billing, it'll be worth the effort as you'll see more sales.

JoesHO · 02-10-2006

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02-10-2006	#1
gonzo Fat Fucking Nobody Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga. Posts: 17,795 Blog Entries: 11	I Might be Laying on a Time Bomb ARS / JoinRightNow / Lightspeed / Jayman Cash / Arika Ames / Sweet Money ... where do all the clicks go? I resigned up to a JoinRightNow last week to take advantage of those RSS feeds they have. I was looking at my sponsors list to realize that there are a lot of you changing ovet to cascading scripts to handle processing. Where do all the clicks go if I have to resign up under a new account to take advantage of your new tools? Id be interested in hearing how you track the traffic/signups since I have to resign up. Lightspeed was pretty damn vocal about changing over the way they did business. In the case of ARS they say they havent deleted my accout but want to talk about it over ICQ. I havent heard from them though... I told them to feel free to hit me up since my ICQ number was on file. Its useless for me to send traffic to a program if its not being counted or the $$$'s arent being credited. So heres a chance for you program owners to participate as opposed to drop off yet another unattended press release. Dazzle me with your techno genius and customer service. Still think this is a place for idle chit chat? __________________ We are putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage." "Never try and be like anyone else" - Hunter S. Thompson "The truth is the truth no matter how you try and package a lie" - Shellee Hale Last edited by gonzo; 02-10-2006 at 10:02 AM.

02-10-2006	#2
TheEnforcer Scored VIP to Anton's Piss Tank Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,781	Re: I Might be Laying on a Time Bomb Hmmm.. good question to be sure. Can a webmaster leave existing links in place and still get credit for their traffic or do they have to change everything?

02-10-2006	#3
selena plankton in the sea of porn Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On The Edge Posts: 509	Re: I Might be Laying on a Time Bomb In regards to JaYMan Cash's switch from CCBill to NATS: All old links still work. They go to the old tour, and are credited under CCBill. All NATS links go to the new tour, and are credited via NATS. Same thing as when we acquired marketing rights to Kat Vixen, which was an existing program. Because the principles involved are affiliates themselves, they wanted to keep things easy. So all Kat's old links still work. Affiliates that had been promoting her prior to the change were not required to go switch everything out. ~takes off affiliate manager hat~ As an affiliate, the only difference for me has been that some of my Raven stuff is paid via CCBill. Everything else is paid directly from JayMan Cash, and is tracked via NATS. __________________ Affiliate Manager JaYMan Cash That One Program ICQ 273551440

02-10-2006	#6
TheEnforcer Scored VIP to Anton's Piss Tank Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,781	Re: I Might be Laying on a Time Bomb Thanks for coming over and inmforming the webmasters selena. I'm sure they appreciate it. Hats off to you and Jayman.

02-10-2006	#7
Trish Trying to get enough posts to spam a link I'm new! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3	Re: I Might be Laying on a Time Bomb With ArikaAmes.com, it's pretty much the same thing with what Jaymancash did. All the CCBill linking codes still work and are being tracked properly and sales are still being credited. The only difference pretty much is CCBill is sending out those affiliates checks and the people who signed up for the nats program are receiving checks from me. I remember when I first switched over to NATS and was trying to get everyone to sign up to the NATS program instead of CCBill. But really it made no difference, except having access to the add material. Most affiliates who signed up with CCBill pretty much stayed with their CCbill linking codes.

02-11-2006	#15
Hell Puppy Fat Fucking Nobody Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,523	Re: I Might be Laying on a Time Bomb In most cases there is not a easy way to convert people over if you're going from a system where you cant control the entry point to a new system. Going from a CCBill affiliate program to one such as NATS or MPA is a good example. Those clicks hit CCBill first, then get redirected. There's no practical way to pick out that traffic and redirect it to the new tracking system with affiliate tracking info intact and translated. The most honest approach you can do is disclose that the change is coming well in advance and/or run both in parallel for a while. That's what we've done on sites we've converted from CCBill over to Fat Fucking Cash. The old links to CCBill still work. On some of the sites we've emailed the webmasters to tell 'em it'll go away in 90 days, but we're well past 90 days in those casea and I still haven't turned it off. They dont get benefit of new tours and such, but if those links are still out there and generating traffic, I'll pay for it as long as I can stand it. I'll continue to encourage them to move over, but in reality will probably keep it around until it becomes impractical not to. Ultimately though if a sponsor has told you to change links, and they've given you a fair amount of time to get around to it, it's ultimately up to the webmaster to go do it. Yeah, it's a pain, but in the case of a sponsor adding cascading billing, it'll be worth the effort as you'll see more sales.

02-10-2006	#16
JoesHO Members Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,085	Re: I Might be Laying on a Time Bomb Cream filled is the only way to go ! __________________ AEBN THE GLOBAL LEADER IN ADULT EVOLUTION something FIT this way comes!