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I do business with Lee, both now and in the future .. I have no issues with him at all and he is a diamond geezer as far as I am concerned .. Jace if you dont want to do business with him thats down to you. He is far from being an idiot.
Originally posted by Newton@Jul 9 2005, 03:26 PM I do business with Lee, both now and in the future .. I have no issues with him at all and he is a diamond geezer as far as I am concerned .. Jace if you dont want to do business with him thats down to you. He is far from being an idiot.
ok, that is fine...and I am entitled to my own opinions...Lee is calling my friend and business partner a illiterate twat, so I am calling Lee an idiot...
or wait, is Lee one of those protected types around here that will end up getting me banned or something if I speak out against him? rofl
Originally posted by Newton@Jul 9 2005, 03:35 PM
Brand0n is your business partner? Oh you must be the brains then .. and yes you entitled to your opinion as I am personally. We don't ban anyone actually ..
you all obviously don't know brandon too well...he has a great head on his shoulders and excellent business sense...not to mention a great guy...he may come off as a little crude on the forums, but whatever, tons of people are like that
shit, when I first met Gonzo in person I thought he was gunna be this huge asshole prick...turned out to be one of the best people I have met in Atlanta yet...down to earth and a huge heart, always willing to go out of his way for anyone
Once we get this shit going that we are doing, i have not a doubt in the world that it will be a huge success and surpass any other products like it in that market, and it would not be happening without Brandons intelligence and business sense
Originally posted by Newton@Jul 9 2005, 03:49 PM He is welcome to contribute more than the passing criticism, and give people an idea, as to his intelligence and business acumen.
Perhaps I will buy you a drink one day at a show and introduce myself.
that is up to him
as for a drink at a show, ALWAYS!!!
where are you located? not here in atlanta are you?
Originally posted by Newton@Jul 9 2005, 03:59 PM Fliting between Spain and the UK at the moment. Trying to make Vegas at the beginning of January, everything before is not doable.
same here, vegas will the next show I hit and the first show I have been to in a few years...was going to get a booth, but then I figured we will just get 3-4 porn stars and roam the floor and tease convention goers...LOL...AVN Expo and Internext both....can't wait!
Originally posted by Trev@Jul 9 2005, 04:06 PM I take what I see. Brand0n has proved himself to be a moron many times over, anyone that is willing to side for him is automatically tarred until they prove otherwise.
Brand0n may be all that you say he is but I’ve yet to see it!!
if that is the case, then I can say the same about Lee....he has proven himself in the moron category MANY times over, on various boards
sorry you feel I am tarred cause of one person I work with...LOL...shit if that were the case for me, i would work with NO ONE ever again
Originally posted by Trev@Jul 9 2005, 04:06 PM I take what I see. Brand0n has proved himself to be a moron many times over, anyone that is willing to side for him is automatically tarred until they prove otherwise.
Brand0n may be all that you say he is but I’ve yet to see it!!
Just out of curiosity...when did you and Brandon meet in person? and what did he do that made you think so badly of him when you all met?
I didn't think too highly of him before I met him either..but I find it hard to believe that after someone met him face to face they would not like him...but maybe he was drunk that night and did something that pissed you off
Originally posted by Trev@Jul 9 2005, 04:23 PM I’ve never met brand0n, and I never want to!
You posted on GFY that “it’s his board persona”, well I’m sorry but what you see is what you get with me. Anyone wanting to run a serious business should be the same. No “board persona” then “real persona”… that’s just a tad mental!
If brand0n is so different from his board persona then I wouldn’t touch him, because these pixels are all we have to define ourselves to the many that don’t hit the shows!
Brand0n will always be #1 moron to me!
not with me...like I said earlier, if that were the case, i would NEVER have ever met up with Gonzo, or a few other people from here and GFY
shit, I never even saw brandon on gfy before the atlanta WA show....i met him the first night, he bought all my drinks...the second night I got into a little trouble with a certain ATM and my penis...and out of everyone that was partying with us, he and stumpy are the only 2 that cared at all that someone from their group was being arrested, and they came and brought the cash down to get me out..
brandon and stumpy stopped their entire night to help me out, and not one other person in the 20 person party even glanced twice...
sucks to judge people strictly from the boards, i don't even pay attention to people really until I meet them in person...I know I get carried away on the boards sometimes and either don't mean what I say (cause I am angry) or say some crazy shit to get people riled up....but in person, anyone will tell you, i am a pretty shy guy that loves being around people and having a good laugh
and fact remains, in a business of scammers, thiefs and liars all around us, a little negativity or stupidity is the LAST thing I am going to shun someone away for, as long as 1. I am making money, 2. you are not losing me money and 3. no one is making money by illegal tactics...it is all good
hell, even if I saw euro lee at a convention I would have not one problem buying him a beer or mixed drink of his choice, just cause I can look past board silliness..which in the end is all it is, board silliness
I met Lee he was courteous, I met Brandon he was funny, but drunk as hell ( not that I care one way or the other about that part )
I used to think Brandon had some potential and i looked passed the board shit too, until he self destructed here, and was so intelligent that he couldn't even comprehend what he was reading and decided to go off for something stupid and he was in the wrong all the way around.
Just my two cents, I would still look at any deal Brandon had to look at, if it was a good fit for me I would use it.
I agree with you Jace
1.) if I make money I am happy
2.) if they dont cost me money I am happy
3.) if they do not put me in a position to get in trouble legally I am happy
although Brandon should man up and apologize here , as he was definatly in the wrong .
Originally posted by JoesHO1@Jul 9 2005, 05:39 PM until he self destructed here, and was so intelligent that he couldn't even comprehend what he was reading and decided to go off for something stupid and he was in the wrong all the way around.
I will agree with you 100% on this one....I watched some of that shit go down, and he did get way out of hand....i do agree
For what its worth. Brandon called me a couple of days ago and was professional and earnest in his response. I suggested that he apologize to Nick at some point.
Guys I still dont get this board "persona" bullshit.
What you see with me online is what you get with me in person.
Jace I am still that 100% asshole you first ran into online several years ago. Our paths crossed and I suppose you realized that its not me being mean spirited but instead just being honest.
Brandon did step up in Atlanta a year ago and bail your ass out [literally]. He does have flashes of a code of honor and professionalism.
I hope you guys put together some business in the near future. The pissing show has its place and time but its much more profitable and gratifying to focus on business.
Its my intention that the focus of Oprano remains as such. The community, its posts and members are industry history.
Where other board can you find not one but several millionaires....
One that couldnt speak a lick of English not to long ago and the other that was shooting "tits for beads" at Mardi Gras.
I am sincerly proud to count these gentlemen as friends.
Members of our community do not imitate... they innovate.
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While Im putting in my 2 cents ... I have to say this about Lee as well.
While everyone bemoans his antics on The Zoo... I can say that every conversation Ive every had with him has been nothing but business.
A lot of people could learn a lot from Lee. I dont see any other sponsors, resource owners, fuck even webmasters that try to span the sexual orientation gap.
Lee doesnt give a shit... he will network with anyone and everyone if he sees business in it.
Food for thought.... you dont see Lee involved with anything but business here.
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Originally posted by gonzo@Jul 9 2005, 11:04 PM Guys I still dont get this board "persona" bullshit. What you see with me online is what you get with me in person.
Amen, Brother Gonzo!!!
I have heard for years and years (from the few friends he has) "Yeah, but Brad Shaw is a good guy offline" and "Brad isn't the same in person as on the boards."
a) who gives a fuck?
it seems to me instead of that being some defense, some reason to "let him slide", that that's MORE of a reason NOT to like the guy.
I mean if one is an asshole on- and off-line, that's bad. But how in the world is someone who is alledgedly "an asshole online, a good joe offline" any better or any different???
As a matter of fact, you have to give credit to a person who is ALWAYS an asshole as he is more true to himself and more true to others! That would put him AHEAD of a drama faker.
Either way, as you said Gonzo, I don't get these asswipes with their online personas bullshit. As far as I'm concerned someone who is a total fuckwad online is the exactly SAME person offline, whether they are faking it or real, cause only a TRUE fuckwad deep down is able to play one so convincingly.
Originally posted by gonzo@Jul 9 2005, 08:04 PM Guys I still dont get this board "persona" bullshit.
What you see with me online is what you get with me in person.
I'll call bullshit on this one Gonzo. I know that from my point of view I think your a much nicer guy in direct contact then when your on the boards bro.
And I know my 'board persona' is much shyer, quieter and slower to respond then how i am in real life
Originally posted by spazlabz@Jul 10 2005, 06:48 AM I'll call bullshit on this one Gonzo. I know that from my point of view I think your a much nicer guy in direct contact then when your on the boards bro.
i agree, which was also my point...gonzo in person is such a nice guy, in fact my referred to him when she met him (very briefly) as a teddy bear....LOL
and on that note...this thread is mainly about euro lee and brandon....what abotu euro lee's board persona? he seems like a total cunt from what I have seen for years on the boards...yes, he is intelligent, i can tell that very easily...but he also degrades and pokes fun constantly at people that don't see something on his level...in fact, he pokes fun at anyone at GFY...which has some great people...is this how he is in real life? does he go to conventions and just run around making fun of people and running off at the mouth? i doubt it, cause that is his board persona
Originally posted by Newton@Jul 10 2005, 09:17 PM
You will have to wait until he comes back on Wednesday to answer that, as he is on holiday as well you know, and you can also find out if you are up to his level.
I have no interest i knowing who is on what level....i was just stating an observation
everyone has a way they act on the boards, and i have yet to so meet one person that reminded me of how they were on the boards, which while you may call it them either being more open or more shy on the boards, i call that a board persona
I tend to speak my mind more and also challenge people alot more on the boards than I ever would in person, it just just easier for me to type my thoughts than say them...so if I come off as stupid, immature and argumentative on the boards, it just cause I can type my thoughts better than talk them out
haha, just thinking off the top of my head, i know of 2 people that are exactly the same on the boards as they are in person, Paul and Marc at CJ....there is not one bit of difference to what you see on the boards to what you get in person
Originally posted by JaceXXX@Jul 10 2005, 08:11 PM what abotu euro lee's board persona? he seems like a total cunt from what I have seen for years on the boards
You need to meet me 'offline' too
Im a cunt in person just as much as on a forum, just ask people over at GWW, 99% of the community members we have there know im a cunt, i tell them openly im a cunt, my family knows im a cunt too.
The difference is, only certain people get to see my 'cunty' side, if you have seen it, you are special
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it seems to me instead of that being some defense, some reason to "let him slide", that that's MORE of a reason NOT to like the guy.
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