Just to be sure you know my feelings...FUCK ARS!

[pushpills]

did I say ars? I meant pornodoggy.



Last edited by pushpills at Mar 25 2004, 03:14 PM

[gonzo]

Originally posted by pushpills@Mar 24 2004, 03:43 AM
I mentioned some of this in the other ARS thread:



ARS was real big, and why? They shaved LESS than the others when it was a free lunch. But that lunch didn't last till dinner......



What does ARS do now? I'll tell ya. Whether or not ARS sent you anything, asked you anything, etc, your SSN isn't enough and since they didn't tell you or send you a packet regarding your tax info (even though your signed up SSN is enough) that means they can steal your traffic.

That's right, regardless of them not sending you a warning, emailing you a warning or asking via phone for MORE info besides your SSN (which they still don't even need) That means they can steal your traffic.


That's right, I checked up, and based on my normal averages, ARS has jacked aprx. 55,000 unq's from me. And that's out of my niched US/CA traffic.


APRX value based on BEFORE they started jacking my traffic, around 7 cents a unq. So total 3850 from just that jacked traffic. And that DOES NOT include the old links that are all over the web that they forwarded to another program, which they have a deal with of course.

ARS is kissing goodbye to their old affiliates who have the major traffic. They are going down, and we all know it. Shaving less wont make an affiliate program anymore.

Fuck ARS and anyone who wants to send them traffic.


And yes, fyi, they are gettig sued by me. No one steals my money.

Damn...somebody needs to toss Grogan a chill pill.
I sho hope you got some smack to back up that down!

[pushpills]

did I say ars? I meant pornodoggy.



Last edited by pushpills at Mar 25 2004, 03:14 PM

[Trev]

We started sending ARS some traffic way back when maxcash had the FTC problem.... they converted so bad for us that we dropped them after about 3 weeks... had the same problems with SIC as well so we dropped them also... maxcash still rocks though

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Trev@Mar 24 2004, 01:10 AM
We started sending ARS some traffic way back when maxcash had the FTC problem.... they converted so bad for us that we dropped them after about 3 weeks... had the same problems with SIC as well so we dropped them also... maxcash still rocks though

Well ARS converted well in comparison back in the day.


Max cash has always done well, and has always had a professional crew. That goes without saying.

ARS is the kind of company that tries to "seem" professional. They did well before, but like I said, they are testing their affiliates and they are well on their way out now.

[Mike AI]

Wonder how many times ARS have been threatned like this?

[Trev]

Originally posted by pushpills@Mar 24 2004, 10:43 AM
ARS has jacked aprx. 55,000 unq's from me.

So how much traffic do you control in total and what kinds of niches?

[DrGuile]

aah, the daily thread where grogan mentions how much money he makes....


Good luck with your lawsuit.

[Meni]

got any jenna traffic?

[PornoDoggy]

All of Oprano can breathe a sigh of relief now that the long days of anxious anticipation have ended - we know know how grogan feels about ARS.

Almost makes me want to start using them again.

[Nickatilynx]

PD



LOL

[DrGuile]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Mar 24 2004, 11:44 AM
All of Oprano can breathe a sigh of relief now that the long days of anxious anticipation have ended - we know know how grogan feels about ARS.

Almost makes me want to start using them again.

ahahah, yes, if Grogan was less of a dummy, I might think that this is a clever publicity stunt FOR ars :P

[Becky]

Originally posted by pushpills@Mar 24 2004, 12:43 AM
I mentioned some of this in the other ARS thread:



ARS was real big, and why? They shaved LESS than the others when it was a free lunch. But that lunch didn't last till dinner......



What does ARS do now? I'll tell ya. Whether or not ARS sent you anything, asked you anything, etc, your SSN isn't enough and since they didn't tell you or send you a packet regarding your tax info (even though your signed up SSN is enough) that means they can steal your traffic.

That's right, regardless of them not sending you a warning, emailing you a warning or asking via phone for MORE info besides your SSN (which they still don't even need) That means they can steal your traffic.


That's right, I checked up, and based on my normal averages, ARS has jacked aprx. 55,000 unq's from me. And that's out of my niched US/CA traffic.


APRX value based on BEFORE they started jacking my traffic, around 7 cents a unq. So total 3850 from just that jacked traffic. And that DOES NOT include the old links that are all over the web that they forwarded to another program, which they have a deal with of course.

ARS is kissing goodbye to their old affiliates who have the major traffic. They are going down, and we all know it. Shaving less wont make an affiliate program anymore.

Fuck ARS and anyone who wants to send them traffic.


And yes, fyi, they are gettig sued by me. No one steals my money.

Well the two things I got out of the above post is that you are mad at ARS and that you want to sue us. Perhaps you can better explain exactly what you are pissed about so I can better address what's bothering you?

[aeon]

It takes 5 minutes to fill out a W-9 and fax it in ya know. That's the only other info ARS asked for that I ever heard and they're not the only sponsors to require it.

On a side note, pissing on boards is fun and it's meant to be fun, but business is private unless there's no other alternative. Sponsors pay attention to certain people, because they know those people won't go whining to boards over shit that can be taken care of privately and quickly. Forcing people to waste time on boards over idiotic shit won't ingraciate you to anyone.

It won't help you in anyway. It only makes people leary of dealing with you.



Last edited by aeon at Mar 24 2004, 09:37 AM

[Carrie]

Since you're trying to reform your image - you probably know by now that knee-jerk pissed-off posts like this aren't gonna help you.
But, if you do end up talking to Becky and getting things worked out, a great big public apology and some crow-eating would help.

I know you watch the boards, when ARS asked the webmasters to fill out a tax form and send/fax it in, it was a big hubub all over the boards. For something like a month if you logged in to look at your stats, you couldn't do *anything* inside the ARS affiliate's area until you had read/downloaded that tax form and sent it in. It took me about 3 minutes to fill out and fax in, within a half hour my account was unlocked and I could access my stats again.
I *do* agree they should've been more aggressive letting webmasters know via email, though. To my knowledge I never got a notice about it in email; although it might've gotten caught up in the spam.

The only thing about ARS that I'm curious about now is that old gallery traffic isn't always being sent to FMAO as promised; quite a few times you get sent to another sponsor's site. No idea if you get credit for that or not.

[Amberlita]

Originally posted by Carrie@Mar 24 2004, 09:59 AM
...
The only thing about ARS that I'm curious about now is that old gallery traffic isn't always being sent to FMAO as promised; quite a few times you get sent to another sponsor's site. No idea if you get credit for that or not.

Yes, Carrie. You are absolutely paid on those links.

Check out the ARS RI webmaster forum for more detailed information:
http://stats.arsri.com/board/

[Dravyk]

Grogan, hint.





Last edited by Dravyk at Mar 24 2004, 03:32 PM

[PeerPatrick]

Just to be sure you know my feelings, I loves me some ARS! urpdance:

[Monk]

Originally posted by pushpills@Mar 24 2004, 03:43 AM
advised to edt

advise you to grow a pair.

Don't post shit you are not willing to back up.

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Monk+Mar 25 2004, 01:54 PM-->