Its All About Business - Focus 2008

[gonzo]

This year I would like for this boards focus to expand by seriously keeping these few questions in mind.

1. Why do sponsors fuck you and what is the methodology they use to cheat you out of money and/or traffic.

2. How can you as an affiliate differentiate yourself from the hobbyists that behave like flock of sheep to earn beer money?

3. Why do your conversions suck / how do you fix it / when do you FIRE a sponsor?

Also

On January 4th we will be expanding our focus to include the legal challenges that face each of us. With the recent armchair lawyers posting outlandish claims as fact and the rumors of threatening lawsuits I figure its time that Oprano steps up to the challenge as a credible source for these issues.

Join us Jan 4th for more information on this and thru the year in 2008 as we swing into think tank mode to tackle the aforementioned questions.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Also

On January 4th we will be expanding our focus to include the legal challenges that face each of us. With the recent armchair lawyers posting outlandish claims as fact and the rumors of threatening lawsuits I figure its time that Oprano steps up to the challenge as a credible source for these issues.

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Here Hear!

[tony404]

sounds great

[bluemoney]

Sounds like some carry over talk from the BW dinner.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by bluemoney

Sounds like some carry over talk from the BW dinner.

Some of us weren't invited to "dinner."

First, no donuts, now, no dinner.

I get no respect.....never got a dinner...

[Toby]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

Some of us weren't invited to "dinner."

First, no donuts, now, no dinner.

I get no respect.....never got a dinner...

You could've hitched a ride with Abe.

[bluemoney]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

Some of us weren't invited to "dinner."

First, no donuts, now, no dinner.

I get no respect.....never got a dinner...

It was an open invitation . . . hell even Buckwheat was there and he lives in a cardboard box discarded from a local Poultry Plant.

[KevinG]

This is a great post and I am glad to hear it.

Great response from Hell Puppy too.

As to the first question:

1. Why do sponsors fuck you and what is the methodology they use to cheat you out of money and/or traffic.

The answer partly lies in question number 2.

The sponsors know that most of the affiliates are easy to screw over becasue they are ...

hobbyists that behave like flock of sheep to earn beer money

and finally ...

3. Why do your conversions suck / how do you fix it / when do you FIRE a sponsor?

My answer to all three is to follow what Hell Puppy said, and then when you find out which programs work best and you have some earned dollars under your belt, contact the higher-ups at the sponsor personally and directly.

Tell them you want to find ways to work more closely together and increase sales for both of you.

There are always things we can use as webmaster affiliates to improve our content, traffic and conversions.

But first, you must address Gonzo's question number 2 and DIFFERENTIATE yourself by actually earning commissions that go beyond "beer money".

You know the old saying "money talks and bullshit walks".

Prove to a sponsor that you are worth working with and that they shouldn't treat you like the rest of the flock.

[WebBilling.com]

There will be some excellent discussion here. I better prepare for Friday.

Donuts...Dinner? I wasn't invited either EJ - I guess we'll have to get into the city more

[bluemoney]

Originally Posted by KevinG

This is a great post and I am glad to hear it.

Great response from Hell Puppy too.

As to the first question:



The answer partly lies in question number 2.

The sponsors know that most of the affiliates are easy to screw over becasue they are ...



and finally ...



My answer to all three is to follow what Hell Puppy said, and then when you find out which programs work best and you have some earned dollars under your belt, contact the higher-ups at the sponsor personally and directly.

Tell them you want to find ways to work more closely together and increase sales for both of you.

There are always things we can use as webmaster affiliates to improve our content, traffic and conversions.

But first, you must address Gonzo's question number 2 and DIFFERENTIATE yourself by actually earning commissions that go beyond "beer money".

You know the old saying "money talks and bullshit walks".

Prove to a sponsor that you are worth working with and that they shouldn't treat you like the rest of the flock.

Good stuff Kevin.