BooYah! Slight Victory in war on war on freedoms

[spazlabz]

I am pretty excited by this but not sure if anyone else will be. Finally a judge has ruled that Bush & Co have lost their collective minds.. or at least violated the law and the consitution.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060817/...s_surveillance

U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor in Detroit became the first judge to strike down the National Security Agency's program, which she says violates the rights to free speech and privacy as well as the separation of powers enshrined in the Constitution.
"Plaintiffs have prevailed, and the public interest is clear, in this matter. It is the upholding of our Constitution," Taylor wrote in her 43-page opinion.

Yippeeeeeee


spaz

[Mike AI]

Damn you are almost as ignorant as the judge ( a typical pathetic Carter appointee).

Jimmy Carter is one of the chief reasons we are in such a major war with islamic fascism. On Carter's watch Iran was allowed to be taken over by these fanatics, then he allowed our Citizens to be held hostage for over a year - then launched a doomed rescue mission that had no hope of success ( after he gutted funding to the military).

Carter is the worst President in the 20th Century, maybe ever. The funny thing is, he continues to pop up his head to blame America for all the worlds problems, while at same time coddling dictators like Fidel Castro.

Fortunately the appellete court will knock this ruling out. I imagine they will cite the lack of standing in court of the plantiffs, and dismiss thecase. Judges always look for easy ways out. So the merits of the case will not even be heard.

[Hammer]

Wow Mike, when are you moving? A judge rules in favor of our rights and against the asshole running the country and you call a guy ignorant for getting excited about it?

"Fortunately the appellete court will knock this ruling out." What the fuck are you talking about? Do you think this was a bad ruling and that warrant-less surveillance is a good thing?

[spazlabz]

actually that is a fairly typical response from MikeAI who I guess can best be described as a NeoCon with delusions that anything Bush has done has in some way made America safer.

His is the typical response of someone WAY out of my tax bracket by lightyears who doesn't care about freedoms or real security or peace.. as long as those tax cuts keep rolling in for him and his social club he's fine.



spaz

[Jace]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

His is the typical response of someone WAY out of my tax bracket by lightyears who doesn't care about freedoms or real security or peace.. as long as those tax cuts keep rolling in for him and his social club he's fine.

hahaha..my dad is the same way

I asked him once "why are you a republican?"

he replied "because I like my money"

LOL

[Mike AI]

I am far from a neo-Con and I am not a huge fan of Bush. I am anti-big government PERIOD!

However, I do realize that we are at war, and during war tough measures are needed sometime.

Once you guys get your heads out of the sand you might realize the same thing.

I suggest you take an hour out of your day and watch the movie Obsession - it can be found online.

We need to win the war, then we can go back to shrinking government power.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by Jace

hahaha..my dad is the same way

I asked him once "why are you a republican?"

he replied "because I like my money"

LOL

LOL dear old Dad... I like my money to... as a general rule i like all money and wish more of it would visit my bank account. I used to consider myself a NeoCon a long time ago, but i honestly believe that since Clinton (yes Clinton) and Bush have run the company the middle class is dying, the working poor is increasing and the upper class is getting smaller and tigher.

In short most of the money in fewer hands. if you have money now it isnt so hard to keep... but the American dream I feel died with NAFTA and WTO

businesses can be more competitive globally but if you don't have money or friends with money your fucked... not having to give a shit about that is what leads people to support Bush no matter what he does including bypassing both the judicial and legislative branches altogether because.... he wants to.


spaz

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by Jace

hahaha..my dad is the same way

I asked him once "why are you a republican?"

he replied "because I like my money"

LOL

Actually, my wife and I are Republicans and like our money very much, but GW is a tyrant and a moron and Republican or not, I find him an embarrassment and a threat to my way of life and my liberties. I'll be glad as hell to see him go and if we end up with a Democrat, I may actually not be too upset.

[spazlabz]

as if it was needed.. yet more evidence of the imcompetance shown by this administrations policies
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060820/pl_nm/crime_usa_dc
hell yeah... i feel safer


spaz

[Robert]

From a recent piece by Ray McGovern

"Lessons of History
The widespread complacency in the United States calls to mind that of the obedient German citizens who acquiesced during an analogous time during the thirties. On February 27, 1933, as Adolf Hitler reached for unchallenged power, the Reichstag building, Germany’s parliament, was destroyed in a fire. Hitler took full advantage of this 9/11-like calamity to whip up fear of “terrorists”—in this case, Communist terrorists—and to impose legislation curtailing the rights of German citizens. The vast majority of German citizens acquiesced.
In Defying Hitler: A Memoir, Sebastian Haffner provides an eyewitness account of those days in Berlin: “With sheepish submissiveness the German people accepted that, as a result of the fire, each one of them lost what little personal freedom and dignity was guaranteed by the constitution; as though it followed as a necessary consequence.... more than one [of my colleagues] hinted that they had doubts about the official version; but none of them saw anything out of the ordinary in the fact that, from now on, one’s telephone would be tapped, one’s letters opened, and one’s desk might be broken into.” (pp 121-122) "

[spazlabz]

Normally I hate copy/pastes as replies in a thread... just seems so unoriginal to me...

however, in the case of Robert's post... i have to say that I think there is some relevance to what he posted here and the realities of Life in America and the direction we are headed. Thank you for the post


spaz

[softball]

bump for mikeAI who is ignoring this like he ignored the scooping of great url's through his registry services....still waiting for the promised news release. But that is what "these people" do when caught with their pants down....duck and dive and call it mainstream. LMFAO
Sux to be a fascist.

[Mike AI]

Did someone fart?