[Toby]

Yeah, it's become painfully obvious as that thread has wound down that the issues that really need to be addressed won't be. Some of the minor suggestions will probably get incorporated piecemeal across several of the shows, but the thinning of the herd is going to have to happen the hard way.

There's an opportunity here, for someone willing to run a show at a deficit for a couple of years to get themselves established. Put together a show that truly does provide ROI for show sponsors, programs, vendors AND affiliates. Do it right and both AVN and XBIZ will be the ones crying the downsize blues.