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Old 05-17-2009   #7
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Default Re: Sony to blame tube sites too?

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Originally Posted by tony404 View Post
when you figure probably 50 percent maybe more of tube site viewers arent old enough to own a credit card it makes your point pretty moot. When ibill went under we canceled 330 members in one day. We were back to the number in two months So if it was full of forgotten people we wouldnt of came close to that number. The recurring model was not created by adult and its not going anywhere. Porn had a huge explosion when all you had to decide was the box cover. I give the music industry credit they aren't short sighted vultures, you dont see them advertising on bit torrents or p2p sites.
Unfortunately guys like you, Danny and rhetorical are the exception not the rule. I would say that pretty much the entire "amateur" niche is an exception because the people who surf those sites for the most part know what they're looking for and can smell a real girl involved in the running of a site versus a faux site from a mile away. Same is true of niche's like rhetorical works, you cant fake that, you've gotta love it a little yourself and know your audience and provide the content they want.

That community treats their user base as a customer, if not a community, and gives them something they cant easily find for a fair price.

Novel concept huh?

So long as the rest of the industry doesn't fuck it up to the point that no one can get credit card processing, there will always be a comfortable living out there in these markets for the people willing to play it honest and do a little work.

But again, exception, not the rule. The majority of what's out there are cookie cutter sites that exist to do nothing but milk the ever loving crap out of any credit card that someone is naive enough to give them. Bury it with cross sales and recur it on every site until they finally discover it, and then hope they are too embarassed or lazy to charge it back.

THAT behavior drives people to tube sites.

It would be a great business model for someone to do industry research with surveys and stuff to sell to those who care and the press. I would bet anything if we had the data there's a fair amount of people who have paid for the porn in the past and would be willing to pay for it again, but now get their spank on via tube sites because they fear the hassle of having to cancel a credit card and dispute $200+ worth of charges again.
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