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So what was most common thing discussed?

Everyone is sweating. Most people were readily admitting and bemoaning business being off, typical number I heard batted around was 20%-ish.

As is always the case with adult, no one wants to admit that the real problem is the industry is a den of thieves that supports market destructive behaviors. Instead, they all whine about whatever the latest change is that is making them not able to make the same money they were used to making the same way they were used to making it.

Good news is TGPs are no longer the root of all evil. That honor now belongs to tube sites. Everyone saying why produce new content when it'll just be given away free, blah blah blah. Tubes are going to be the end of porn I even heard at one seminar. Give me a break.

And on the processing side, everyone worried that pre-checked cross sales are going to cause loss of processing, poison the well, etc.

But here's the thing. There are valid concerns in both of those. Cross sales in and of themselves are a legitimate tool if disclosed properly, but jackasses hide pre-checks, etc. As for tube sites, they can be done legitimately, but a site that posts full length copyrighted material from membership areas will always draw more surfers. But why do both of these (and most other industry evils) exist? Because someone is making money off of them.

The real villains here are those monetizing the things that are poison the market. As long as you have people like Adult Friend Finder willing to sponsor sites that rip us all off, those sites are going to continue to exist.