[sarettah]

I lost my train of thought in the middle of that and instead of editing it in I am going to just put it here:

Continuation of this paragraph:
"In this industry, as in all businesses, there are those that will make it as a business owner, those that will attempt it as a business owner and not make it, those that will always be an employee (and that is not meant as an insult, some people are quite happy not having the responsibility of ownership) and thse that hang around on the fringe."

Just because someone is not a successful owner/operator of their own adult online business does not make them a newbie (even though they ain't bringing in the big bucks). There are many employees in this biz who are respected and looked up to, they will probably never be rich, because employees rarely do get rich, although they may make a decent living at it.

There are people that will keep trying and trying and never become succesful owner/operators. That does not mean that they don't know how to build sites or design or write scripts. Usually (imho) the ingredient that is missing there is not knowing how to sell. Sales is a talent, arguably, it is a talent that can be learned but a talent nonetheless. Some people are natural born salesmen, for many it is an uncomfortable position. If you have some capital to work with or if you find the right partner(s) then lack of salesnamship may be overcome. But some never fnd that right combination and so they never hit the success oute. That does not mean they are newbies. They know what to do, they know how to do it, hell, they may even know when to do it (which is often key to make or break of course) but they have never put the pieces all together successfully.