[Jace]

I have been doing SEO for almost 5 years now and I have never submitted anything to search engines

as far as directories, be careful, se's don't like these that much, and if you happen to submit to the wrong directory, it can get you in trouble and drop your ranks

the first piece of advice I can give anyone wanting to get good se rankings without revealing certain secrets (hehe)...

get quality non-reciprocated inbound links

wait, then you mentioned top lists also

so, what do you want? directory traffic? se traffic? or top list traffic?

3 TOTALLY seperate things