[gonzo]

Actually I spent some time with them both 2 years ago in San Diego.

If your looking to make a big time stir for branding and promotion - I sincerly believe that there are no 2 better guys in this biz to do that. And neither of them have bought me drinks and I have never attended a Players Ball.

I have made fun of it though.

I think the problem comes when programs or companies expect that buzz to translate to dollars and want to tie them directly to that.
IMHO that is not what they do nor is it what they claim to do.

KB and D$ connect with the Hippity Hoppity group of webmasters. And lets face it there are a lot of them. So as a company you have to ask yourself. Do YOU want to try and work with these people or would you rather hire the Blatt Brothers?

Compound the problem with the fact that the larger traffic pushers are few and far between and they are loyal to the places they send traffic to.
[Rightly so... it converts and they get paid]

So the only way for some to gain the visability that they crave is to go after that crowd.

And who ya gonna call?
D$ and KB.