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Originally Posted by PornoDoggy
This same scenario is playing out in other segments of the government - and the more it happens the less credibility it will have with the people.
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i dont really care about Iraq or Bush to be honest. mostly, i think the discussions are interesting. i just think that people in these types of arguments tend to be so polarized that they lack any real objectivity on the subject and in spite of such polarized views, no one can admit they are biased and one sided. thats usually evident in the remarks and comments which completely dismiss any other perspective on the subject.
Iraq imploded when the army and other fighting forces dissapeared as the US/British et al rolled in. looting. no electricity, no medicines, no functioning schools, no functioning hospitals no water etc etc etc etc etc. it was the end of the world as we knew it according to some. it was a war that was going to cause the entire middle east to rise up against the US and cause revolutions everywhere.
people were quick to point out how Iraq was fucked beyond repair and quick to highlight all the shit that was going wrong. tremedous strides have been made since then which include democratic elections, new military, new police (who have enough conviction to work knowing they are targets of extremists and are frequently killed)... yet somehow, people seem to believe that things have not improved in spite of the obvious.
i would say that generally, no one can argue that the occupation was poorly planned. i would even support the argument that bush is borderline retarded. however, i really do not believe that things are as terrible as you and others would have us believe.