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Originally Posted by JR
thats the oldest and dumbest argument that has existed since the dawn of civilization. rogue regimes are going to act like rogue regimes no matter what conventions the civilized world abides by.
if you stopped and thought for 2 seconds about your arguement you would realize that the inverse would also be true in that others would not torture for fear of their own being tortured.
the US is stepping backwards? really? by passing ANOTHER law against torture? there are tons of laws and international agreements against torture right now. who in government is saying it shoudl be allowed? do you know what "torture" is today? stupid shit like sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation etc. big fucking deal. no one is talking about breaking bones and electrical shocks to the genitals. kill 3000 people in a terrorist attack and someone keeps you awake for a few days. boooo fucking hoooo!
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Life is really simple in JR's world.
The law passed by Congress this week was only necessary because the Bush Administration has taken us backwards in our adherence to many treaties, the Geneva conventions on treatment of prisoners being only one of them.
How much sleep or sensory deprivation have you undergone? What is your level of expertise in being treated like a prisoner?
I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't have any objections to removing the genitals of an individual responsible for a terrorist attack with a very dull knife over a long period of time.
Not sure I would object to that same treatment for the individuals responsible for allowing terrorists the opportunity to operate realtively freely in Iraq, either.
I do have a problem with the United States being responsible for such treatment, or sleep and sensory deprivation, etc., because somebody happened to be walking down the wrong street at the wrong time, or because somebody's neighbor was still pissed off about the party last week and informed on them.