[JR]

i think all debate about the morality of torture is irrelevent, ignorant and shortsighted. it has always happened. it does happen. it needs to happen. it will continue to happen. discussion and debate and passing laws on the issue is just theater for the public. nothing more. its really irrelevant what laws the US passes since they are typically not directly torturing anyone anyway. why would they when they can just send them to egypt, syria, jordan, saudi arabia etc. as they typically do?

the older i get, the more i am against any rules of war (except those protecting civilians). why constrain yourself to play by rules that the enemy wont? the greatest deterrent throughout history has always been the fear that the other side is equally brutal and insane and eating babies.