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Originally Posted by CDSmith
Although I agree with several of your points and applaud a few of the other comments you made, your last comment leads me to suspect you of being the fool, actually. Why? Because you obviously missed the whole point I put forth that 1) there is no "one right way or answer" for all parents or to this issue, and 2) in reading back on my earlier posts it is pretty clear to me that I said "sometimes" "some kids" could use a spanking.... not always, not all... but some. This suggests that I meant it to be only a part of disciplinary measures, only part of parenting, as in not the whole of it. A part.
As in there are other parts to the equation.
Comprende?
Spanking is not always the lazy way. Sometimes it is the necessary way. Don't like it? Fine, if your little darlings turn out perfectly wonderful more power to you. Not everyone is the same as you sir. Fact is, in general, kids out there have LESS respect for adults, less respect for authority and less regard for private property than ever before, and there has to be a reason for it. One fact that could be a contributor is that in the home and in schools there is far LESS real punishment/consequences than there was 25+ years ago. Is that the only reason? Probably not, but it appears to be an obvious one.
You are absolutely right though about it taking hard work. And commitment, and consitency and 100 other things. Many about-to-be's have no idea what they're in for.
You know, another thing that is "the easy way out" that a lot of parents take is putting their kids in the other room in front of the TV or video game and keeping them occupied day after day that way. Then there are the kids who have a computer, full stereo, and their own phone line right in their bedroom. Sending them to their room sure sounds like punishment, or a vacation. Times have sure changed since I was a kid, in that regard.
Agree, don't agree, whatever... but it would be nice for once to come to a board and be able to have a good heated discussion without having the name-calling "fool" BS going on. Wouldn't it?
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CD - I was not calling you a fool personally. You don't have kids, so you can't know how your attitude toward child rearing will change when you do. You strike me as an intelligent person, so I'd be quite suprised if your attitudes didn't.
As far as the rest of it goes
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Fact is, in general, kids out there have LESS respect for adults, less respect for authority and less regard for private property than ever before, and there has to be a reason for it.
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Ah, the old man rant.
I don't buy it. If you check literature from at least the time it switched from stone carvings to papyrus, you will find the same lament. From personal experience, I have heard my own father say it about my generation, his mother reminding him that she and grandpa said the same thing about his generation - and have now heard my own daughter make a similar grumble about her son.