[sarettah]

Ok, gonna throw my two cents in here.

I am fairly intelligent, and I am fairly liberal, and I was against the idea of going into Iraq right up to the day that Colin Powell went in front of the U.N.

That day while he was being televised laying out all the intel before th UN, I turned to Jen and said "Well, if Colin Powell is saying it, I will back him on it. They know a whole lot more than we do". If I check back on the board I think I will even find a couple of posts to that effect.

So, when it turned out that Colin Powell himself felt betrayed I definitely became one of the "These guys are lying" crowd.

So, did I have my own opinion. Yes. Was my opinion for the war before that. No. Was my opinion for the war after that. No. Was my opinion swayed to the point that I would shut my mouth and let them do what they had persuaded me they needed to do. Yes.

Spin is about changing opinion. The Bush administration put all sorts of spin on this thing in order to change our opinions. That they were successful speaks well of their P.R. machine but since it turns out that they sold us a bill of goods, it leaves them open to be called liars. (Back in my childhood we would have tarred and feathered them and rode them out of town on a rail)