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Originally Posted by TheEnforcer
Oh, you aren't going to ever get critisize of offend me by making humor of the bible!! LOL
I was merely commentating on the difference between "church going" believers and spiritual believers. Peoiple that are regular church goers and who subscribe to a particular "brand" of faith take the requirements of the bible as the absolute requirements for entry into heaven. The more extreme of those types do things like push for things like intelligent design to be pushed on your kids. People who are more of the spiriual belief and not regular church goers in nature like, which is what you seem to be, seem to take a more "this is what I believe God would do" appraoch and are much more open minded about those things.
Alas I am somewhat rambling but what I really was asking in a roundabpout way is how you thought, and WHY, that poem answers my criticism of the concept of God and entry into heaven? Because it seems to me that is more a PERSONAL belief on what you think God would do rather than what the bible teaches God does.
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That poem came to me when I was young. What I liked was reinforcement of my - at the time - belief that any god who'd want people to sit around at his feet worshipping him was kind of a lousy god. A god that wanted people to love other people was a pretty cool god. In the poem, which doesn't mention entry into heaven, it just says that God loves ben Adam best *because* he loves his fellow men.
All of my beliefs about the Goddess/God are personal beliefs. There is no "Wiccan Bible." We keep what is called a "BOS" (Book of Shadows, I have *no* idea why it's called that) that is a compendium of many things: our own beliefs, our own personal rituals, etc. (Heavy on the "etc.") Note: the whole "spell" thing comes from the "Craft," not the religion, and I'm not going there right now.
I mentioned the poem because I love it and I happened to think of it then. I, personally, found it impossible to believe in a "god" that wanted the things that some people have informed me the Bible says God wants. I'm going to have to scroll back after this to read what it was you said that you thought I was "answering." I tossed out more "comments" in this thread than "answers." I don't happen to believe that I have any answers to anything. I have lots of beliefs, and can even explain how they came to be, but as far as answers? Really short on those.
Everybody's religion - I consider the atheist's beliefs a religion, since I never got a good enough definition of the word "religion," I use it as a catch all word that covers just about anything - as their way of making it through life. If my set of beliefs turn out to be totally wrong, in every way, where is the harm? I've had my one and only life in happiness, harmed no one, and turned to dust. Whatever's out there, something or nothing, I doubt seriously it's a big yellow smilie going "neener, neener" because I got it wrong. (However, if a big yellow smilie is currently laughing his ass off because I wrote that, I'll cope with that, too.)
A long time ago I decided what the Goddess wanted from me personally. It's a belief that I'm very comfortable with. Does that mean I know what the Goddess/God/Fred/Whatever wants from you? Nope. It's not my job to know that. I'm in charge of me, and no one else.
How am I doing, TE? Any closer to answering whatever the question was?
