[Dravyk]

Lot of what you say there makes sense.

Of course, to be devil's advocate ... there's always the other problem. "Well if I kill one person I'll get the chair, so shit ... I'll take out several dozen in that case."

Seriously though, and I'm sure we'll hear from Ant and other gun owners ... Well, hmm ...

I am thinking maybe the problem with gun owners and the NRA, is the precedent thing? Maybe they get riled up not because of the laws out there, but maybe because they feel at some point it will snap back on them? Dunno. Guessing. Gun owners, you tell us.

Think is though. As you said, Sare, it's committing a crime with a gun. Ant, for instance, may love buying, collecting, shooting them. Ant is by no means going to commit a crime with one, not ever.

I also suspect -- again, could be wrong -- but want to hear from the gun folks themselves -- I suspect gun owners really hate criminals. And it's because the criminals have guns that gun owners arm themselves.