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Old 10-21-2005   #22
MorganGrayson
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Default Re: Is Everyone Anal These Days ??

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Originally Posted by Anthony
Yep, I had three people who gave me advice and I ran away with it.

1. Nick - Traffic is king...
2. Serge - the surfer is commodity
3. BillPMB - Maximize your traffic, and increase your profits.

Everything else I read from the web. Just like I used to say back in the day, Learn, Implement, and Test. Everything I read, I did in real time. Like Mike Fold's earlier writings from Ynot on clicks and how to filter them. Like Colin's earlier version of "Building an empire" which led me to having the top 5 spot on Sextracker for my CJ's when it was worth something.

There was no fucking luck, I busted my ass, learned, and asked questions. I repaid that back in spades.

If asked by anyone here for help or advice on sites, I'd throw a lending hand. But the days of being the Newbie Board President are a half decade dead.

But going back to your earlier accusation... Bashing? My tounge in cheek ribbing? Nope, not I.
I've got a splitting headache and you didn't use one of our many, many "this is tongue in cheek ribbing" smilies...which frankly, startled me.

To amplify on something I said earlier...yes, I knew Anthony "when." And he's telling the truth. (Actually, a shortened version of it, because I think the script would put its little virtual foot down if Ant listed *all* the work he did.) I listened to a lot of Anthony's ideas on the phone. I used to have one of those cool headset phones that I wore during the "talks." It had two batteries. Some of those talks managed to kill *both* of them.

A newbie today has to do the same. Ask questions, learn, research, experiment and work like a damned dog. It's almost horrifying how much work you have to do to make even a small success in this business. Old school webmasters don't respond well to remarks about "luck and timing," and I forgot that for a minute. It may *seem* like luck and timing, but that's only because you weren't standing behind the webmaster for the 24/7 he/she was on the computer working and learning and experimenting.

Newbies today have the same misinformation that the old newbies had. I recently pounded "the surfer is NOT your 'client'!!" into the head of one of our newbies until I thought both of us were going to have a stroke. "The surfer is a commodity" is a *great* way to put it, and I intend to swipe that line for frequent usage in the Oprano Newbie Lounge.

I owe you an apology, Anthony. I apologize. I was there for the "Newbie Board President" years and it was shitty of me to forget that. You rocked that gig for a long time.
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