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Old 12-07-2004   #1
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Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Dec 7 2004, 02:39 PM
The real question is HOW do you get traffic to a free site these days outside of TGP's.
Freesites mainly survive on LinkList and search engine traffic.

Freesite building doesn't show instant results so many new webmasters don't persist with it. A TGP gallery will do most of it's joins immediately after being listed.. Where a freesite might take 1-2 years to generate the same number of joins. I would say after 24 months an average freesite should produce 15-20 joins.
And guessing 15-20 joins would be a reasonable average per gallery page?

The main difference between the Freesite and Gallery building webmasters is attitude.

Most webmasters choose to build TGP Galleries first as the direct traffic numbers are easier to see and the formula to make a site is easier to understand. Webmasters who gravitate to FreeSite building over TGPing are usually motivated by a wish to build an empire for the future... They may be doing well day to day TGPing but if they stop submitting galleries the income drops away.

Some people choose to build LinkList Freesites as the TGP bandwidth scares them off too.. doing freesites requires almost no financial committment until regular income is already rolling.. I would guess it's hard to start building daily galleries for TGPs without fixed hosting costs of a couple of hundred bucks minimum?

It can take 12 months of working with Freesites to get to the daily income a gallery per day TGPer is making after 1-2 months... but by the end of year two, the Freesite Builder should be well ahead for the same time invested.. And at that point if they both decided to retire.. the freesite webmaster should have 6-12 months of something near normal income levels.. and also expect it to take years before income tailed off completely.. if it ever did stop. I don't know enough about TGPing to predict how fast gallery income would drop off, but 12 months would just about be the end of it at a guess?

Last but not least... and this was never something I thought about originally when I jumped into LinkLists... If a webmaster has a domain with 100 established freesites on it... they have an asset that can be easilly sold for a number in the $,000 if they need to cash out in an emergency.

Last time I tried working TGPs everyone wanted to delete their old gallery pages as early as they could get away with it after listing.. even if that's not still the case.. i'm thinking about $15 for a domain with 100 Gallery pages on it? Maybe a few hundred bucks to someone who could re-use the galleries..

BTW, personally I think it's better to pick one or the other than do both.. on the surface they seem like almost the same thing.. but take very different mindsets to do each well imho.



I didn't know what to say "about my freesites" Gonzo, so thought that might be helpful to some people that scratch their heads over why the hell LinkList people would choose it over TGP (like moi)


PS.. Hosted Freesites for CelebrityBling webmasters coming Nov 1st.. oops Dec 1st... ah shit.. coming when they get here :\
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