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Originally posted by RawAlex@Oct 1 2004, 07:26 AM
You win a debate when the other side cannot clearly answer and support their side. On that basis, Kerry won in a landslide.
As I mentioned at the top of this thread, Bush ain't very good at these things, and it showed. As soon as the discussion went away from his pre-recorded messages, he stumbled, he paused, he stuttered, and he talked in circles.
His "wrong war wrong place wrong time" message only goes to re-enforce the feels of many people, that it was the wrong war! Kerry having the balls to admit it will more than likely help to get the world to come back on to the US's side. The lone cowboy routine gets really dull after a while, and you know everyone tries to get the gunslinger.
Kerry SOUNDLY beat Bush (CNN poll gave Bush a "C" rating overall, Kerry a "B+" - based on public votes). He has vaulted himself right back into the campaign. Now it will be interesting to see what he does with it. It will also be interesting to see if Bush still wants to do the other debates.
Alex
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Kerry didn't exactly have a good answer to how he's going to talk the French into supporting "a great diversion" and "the wrong war at the wrong place at the wrong time." Nor did he have a good answer to his continually changing position on the threat Hussein posed and how to deal with it.
To say he SOUNDLY beat Bush is to demonstrate silly partisanship. I think he beat Bush, but I don't think it was masterful. Like I said, he missed some real opportunities to bury Bush. He could have worked that mumble-mouthed idiot like a 12 year old school girl in Beijing. Did you ever see the 2000 Republican Debates -- McCain, Bush, and Keyes? Alan Keyes made Bush look like a retarded monkey. It was so bad people were groaning. We were laughing at Bush. He got tooled.
Kerry had the chance to do the same thing. He could have bodyslammed Bush. He didn't. Like I said, if you want to see what a rhetorical beating is, go look at what Keyes did to Bush. No comparison.
Alex, my guess is that if a video surfaced of Kerry fucking a 6 year old boy in the ass while snorting coke off his back and then shooting him in the head when he was done, you'd try to justify it.