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cj · 08-16-2004

>Now, if you'll excuse me, today I'm teaching my rock 370 assembly language.

yeah you are really trying to discuss this thing in a business like manner

It appears that while you have been trying to teach your rock, your head got stuck under it.

So before you lecture me anymore about what you call my 'general dislike for the tgp model', know that while I dislike the model I think its too late to change it and that the generic paysite model will fall before the tgp model will.

Its this simple ... nobody wants to pay for anything if they can help it, so there will always be more demand for free porn than there are for paysites - what surfers want, someone will give them because their EYES are what is valuable. Conversions on most paysite niches are not worth bothering with anymore for me, my women's and gay sites are the only sites that have stayed pretty consistent throughout the years.

I have been offered good $ on many occasions for ad spots on purve, i've always declined because the site was there for affiliates to make money off, not for me to sell other products with their traffic - and I was making enough selling paysite subscriptions.

This worked when purve converted 1/50 @ $20 - 30 per month with 6 months average retention ... It was easy when there were hardly any sites on the internet. Retention has dropped over the years in a steady decline, and its because many companies have started building 'portals' for women with all the editorial stuff i'm charging for FREE on their portals. Why? Because womens EYES are so valuable, you can afford to spend all that money developing content just to sell ad spots.

While I will always hold comtempt for the tgp model ruining a perfectly good business, I am just annoyed because it has made me have to change my own business model. But I'm over it already. It's fine, I'm in my element in the world of branding, bookmarkers and providing free samples anyway ... remember, I get people to think about surfing my sites before they even get to the internet, let alone a search engine - the media is a wonderful tool, and the media doesn't have a traffic skim. ;-)

08-16-2004	#136
cj Members Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Down Under Posts: 5,202	>Now, if you'll excuse me, today I'm teaching my rock 370 assembly language. yeah you are really trying to discuss this thing in a business like manner It appears that while you have been trying to teach your rock, your head got stuck under it. So before you lecture me anymore about what you call my 'general dislike for the tgp model', know that while I dislike the model I think its too late to change it and that the generic paysite model will fall before the tgp model will. Its this simple ... nobody wants to pay for anything if they can help it, so there will always be more demand for free porn than there are for paysites - what surfers want, someone will give them because their EYES are what is valuable. Conversions on most paysite niches are not worth bothering with anymore for me, my women's and gay sites are the only sites that have stayed pretty consistent throughout the years. I have been offered good $ on many occasions for ad spots on purve, i've always declined because the site was there for affiliates to make money off, not for me to sell other products with their traffic - and I was making enough selling paysite subscriptions. This worked when purve converted 1/50 @ $20 - 30 per month with 6 months average retention ... It was easy when there were hardly any sites on the internet. Retention has dropped over the years in a steady decline, and its because many companies have started building 'portals' for women with all the editorial stuff i'm charging for FREE on their portals. Why? Because womens EYES are so valuable, you can afford to spend all that money developing content just to sell ad spots. While I will always hold comtempt for the tgp model ruining a perfectly good business, I am just annoyed because it has made me have to change my own business model. But I'm over it already. It's fine, I'm in my element in the world of branding, bookmarkers and providing free samples anyway ... remember, I get people to think about surfing my sites before they even get to the internet, let alone a search engine - the media is a wonderful tool, and the media doesn't have a traffic skim. ;-)