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Originally posted by Peaches@Aug 12 2004, 06:50 AM
Seriously, what is so freaking hard to understand this?
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That's what I'm trying to figure out too!
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Geeze, it just amazes me that you guys, especially since you're IN the content biz, are saying someone doesn't have the right to STOP doing business with someone who uses their content when they don't want them to! 
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I'm not sure where or how you're reading into this that anyone denies that a sponsor can terminate a relationship with an affiliate for any reason.
I agree 100% on that point.
I'd like to know who the sponsors are who have a problem with the TGP skim, so I can be sure not to accidently promote their stuff. I'd encourage 'em to put it in their T&C explicitely so there's no hard feelings.
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But in this case a sponsor DID care, terminated the relationship and demanded the thumbs be removed. Why on God's green earth you guys are so bent out of shape because this one guy doesn't want to play in your sandbox is beyond me. 
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Bent out of shape? I'm just amused. To me, it's so stupid that it's funny.
Here's what I mean. The guy builds himself a pay site and sets up an affiliate program. And he builds and provides galleries and content for these "tgp thingies" obviously with no fucking clue about how they work and then when he stumbles across one and discovers the skim he has kittens.
Almost all TGP's skim...period. It's part of the traffic model that is the TGP game today. If you encourage your content to be used on them, it is going to be skimmed. It's just as stupid as providing the free content and then freaking out because someone is posting it without requring a credit card for access and kids might see it. It exhibits a basic lack of understanding of the industry they are trying to play in.
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Bottom line - if a sponsor doesn't care, then it's a non-issue and this would have NEVER come up.
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You ducked my direct question.
Are Thumb TGPs risking their paychecks by skimming galleries provided by WEG and Purecash?
The answer is obviously yes for Celebrity Bling.
The answer is "maybe" for Evil Genius.....Sykk is dancing the two-step....
Here's MY bottom line... If you submit galleries to my TGP's, I'm gonna skim up to 30%. If I list a sponsors galleries, I'm gonna skim those too, so I'd like to know who has a problem with it so I can make sure I dont list 'em.
I will add one caveat. Remember I'm a tech geek, I sometimes do "interesting things" with the code and sql that builds my pages. Gimme a sponsor who has the shave turned down and is converting well and I'm prone to turn the skim down or off on their stuff because I want to push as much traffic as I possibly can to them.
P.S.: You took the nasty weather with you to Florida. Since noon it has been absolutely wonderful up here, clear, sunny, temperature in the mid-70's with a slight breeze all day....