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Old 08-12-2004   #91
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So let me get this right .... because none of you understand the point peaches was trying to make, she is stupid and you are all geniuses?!?!?

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA

Nick, if you had've SKIMMED right, you'd have retired by now and not still be here with us minions discussing whether thumbs should click to sponsors or other tgp's!!!

Gonzo, if you had've built a paysite on your domain back in 94 when you registered it, you'd be retired too instead of posting here trying to convince us you know everything about tgp's!!

Peaches is making a point here about how sponsors see the standard tgp 'SKIM' procedure and the problems it causes for them ... instead of trying to understand her point, you make smart assed comments about crayons and drawing diagrams and act like you have won some imaginary battle that is only happening in your heads?!?!

Being that you are all planning on building some big fancy tgp to end all tgp's, wouldn't you think the smartest thing you could do at this point is LISTEN?! listen to EVERYBODY, not just those whose ideas support your theories?!

Don't you want good sponsors with unique content in your tgp?!

Don't you want profitable sponsors in your tgp?!

Where my celeb content is concerned, I will not accept a tgp using the thumbs for the skim ... I'm happy to discuss alternative methods because i understand why the skim exists, I'll even code alternatives at our end if something else can be agreed upon, but for legal reasons, the thumbs can not be linked to anywhere else but these sites.

I would explain the reasons further, why this is the most profitable for me & for the tgp, why it makes sense, why it is a smart business move, why it is legally necessary etc, but its clear how ya'all feel about appreciating someone else's position so why bother?

Its no surprise that Nick only cares about 1 persons interests, but Gonzo, I thought you would at least try to consider the views of those who are outside looking in ... especially when those people have valuable knowledge that you don't possess yourself.

It comes down to this .... there are more big tgp's than there are big sponsors these days. Finding the right one to work with has never been so important. 1000 unique visitors is still only 1000 unique visitors, even if it can be inflated to 100 000 clicks in a tgp circle jerk. While turning those 1000 visitors into 100 000 clicks is the core of a successful tgp & the smokes and mirrors game, it doesn't help the *sponsor* find the 1000 visitors and get them to make a purchase.

I could list my upcoming galleries at 1 in every 50 tgp's and get almost the same amount of *people* visiting my site as those who submit to every single tgp out there ...

If you've got a different perspective to share, I'm all ears, I love learning ... THANK YOU to HP, PD and sykkboy for your views and the way you shared them - very interesting & informative.
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