[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jul 30 2004, 12:24 PM
I liked Tip O'Neil, but he gets no credit for turning coutnry around - he is the guy who worked with Carter to get us in the mess. Reagan won election in 2 landslides, and used this to get what he wanted from congress. Tip was wise enough to get on the Reagan bandwagon....

Reagan won the cold war by putting pressure on the Soviet Union rather then coddling them - there was not Detante with Reagan - only Victory.

Mr. Porndoggy, tear down this wall.... tear down the wall in your head that won't give credit where credit is due. THE WORLD, including the defeated enemies give Reagan more credit then you do.

Mike ... you are confusing Ronald Reagan's talk with Ronald Reagan's actions. By your logic, George (Bush) the First should take credit for tearing down the wall, not Reagan. He was in office when it came down.

IMHO, Ronald Reagan accelerated the demise of the Soviet Union by five to ten years - if that much. Didn't cost me much ... of course, my kids and grandkids will have to pay for it. Quite frankly, of far more value than the enormous (and greatly mis-spent) military buildup was the aid given the Afghani rebels ...

Ronald Reagan's failure to act as tough as he talked has cost us dearly. It played a role in the death of 3000 Americans on 9/11, and contributed to the idea that we could be run out of town.

Ronald Reagan's actions in Iran Contra were criminal.

You may deify him if you wish. I chose not to share your hallucinations.

At one point, much of THE WORLD (except the U.S. Republicans) held Woodrow Wilson in high regard for his role in the peace treaty that ended WWI; said peace treaty being the framework for WWII.

It is way too soon to judge Ronald Reagan's presidency. I don't share your opinion of his role in history. What this reminds me of, however, is conversations with traditional liberals in the late 70s and early 80s, in their attempts to deify Kennedy. Same shit, different day.