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Old 07-17-2004   #1
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Hell Puppy, I do not agree that its TGP2 revisted. I think most of the things suggested in my post are a mix of old and new ideas, which is still true to the TGP model.

Ex. the pictures/videos on html was common in the "old" days of TGPs - reason they got rid of it was due to the cheating, now today with money/business ties between submitter/poster and tgp owner, then this should not be a concern - someone investing X amount of money in a gallery spot or in a submit pass will do this because its a business, not to make a drive by submit, never comming back.

Regarding content, then TGP owners are also complaining about the same content/layouts from sponsors being submited again and again - well most likely its the affiliates doing this, not the sponsors themself. And since TGP owners already have begun the process of removing free submits from their systems, then it would make sponsors getting more directly involved in the TGP listings with their content, which again will mean more content, and better galleries (better in the sense that sponsors know their own product, and how to market it).

DRM have been matured to a level where everyone can make use of it - especially on small movie clips with a simple usage.. movie clips on TGPs are more or less a throw away product, however those surfers who take the time to download/save the content to their hdd or revist the same movie clip again and again, will most likely be more interested in buying the full length version... heck the video might not have watermarks or anything, so he might have forgotten where he picked it up, and a small message where he can find more of it might been seen as information (I´m not saying that surfers should not have access to the video ones they watch again and again - with DRM it could be many different options for him to continue watching it... ads, e-mail etc.)

I read many complaints from TGP submitters on the new "pay to submit" offers from TGPs - most of them agree that only a few TGPs can offer a spot, and then it will almost guarantee sales... instead they submit to hundreds of TGPs and get sales from random TGPs - its turned into a volume game "how much bandwidth to burn to make a signup" instead of "how good I am at marketing" - so they get sloppy, just throw a few sponsor pics/movies on a page, write "free free free" at the bottom and pray to God that they will make a signup to cover the bandwidth (or their sponsor will if he is providing free hosting). If TGPs allowed more ads, better marketing possiblities, then it would mean better galleries, because they would actual have an option to "sale" the content on the gallery, and not just hope to be touched by the "signup god".
The best galleries I see on TGPs today, and the ones where typical paysite owners pays for a top spot - why, because he actual makes the gallery interesting in both content, markting and layout so it will make wholesome.

As I see it, then this is about optimizing the potential, instead of pissing on it - give gallery makers the room to make the TGP business better, let them use their creativity to make new products - to pump life back into a system, which is on life support (where would TGPs be today, if sponsors did not pay for content, hosting, design etc.). If all fails, then I´m sure TGP owners still can go back on the highway where present day TGPs are going - that takes minimal effort.
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