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Originally posted by CuriousToyBoy@May 23 2004, 05:10 AM
Avoiding questions?

Not me.

Maybe my naivety is to actually respond instead of run away and hide? Tell me - is that such a bad thing? I try and do that because bugger all sponsors seem to at times (not ALL folks, so keep your pants on!).

I referred in the post above to 2 things specifically related to 2 of these themes:
1. The "no-trial" model makes our payouts FAR more achievable on a per join yield basis than if we trialled.
2. We have conditions in place to protect us, and to allow us to to the right thing by those who do the right thing, without doing the wrong thing.

Apart from that, our content retains. So we can pay that so long as we do not get crucified from people who try and screw us (see above post) - and that, unfortunately means rules. With over 50% retention of rebilling memberships, the math does itself.

Yes, we DO have terms and conditions, and they ARE extensive, AND we are open and honest about them, they DO NOT come as a complete surprise - whether they be reasonable or unreasonable by yours or others reckoning, well that is a totally personal decision, which affiliates can make for themselves. We have many who don't, and just as many who ask the same questions you have directly.

Oh, by the way, I answer each of those guys with the same candor with which I approach these boards.

Just like CJ said earlier - know who you are doing business with.

If we offered straight up across the board we could not sustain it - there are the fraud and other factors to be taken into account.

Bottom line is we offer what we can, the best way we can offer it - it may not be for everybody, but at least with our sliding scale we DO get the opportunity to reward loyal and productive webmasters as they deserve that.

No matter WHAT you do, how you offer it, or how you do business, you are NEVER going to make evrybody happy all of the time. I can accept that. Readily. All we can do is the best we can, in the most ethical and consistent way possible to us.

You're right, you do not know me, and I do not know you. But yet I am still here responding to you.

It was not your axe to which I referred, but you know that as well as I do.

You started this thread, and yes, I added "There is shaving and then there is raping".

I suppose my frustration, be it right, wrong or indifferent, is that even as was later quoted in this thread "it's more about being caught than actually doing the shaving in the first place".

I am bald now by choice, but I have been shaved enough in near on 5 years in this industry to sort of get absolutely befuddled by the fact that it is almost (??) an accepted evil. Call it a personal issue, call it naive, call it whatever you want, but it is my opinion, and I am HAPPY to have it.

By the way, and back to my last post re having to accept that CCBill may well do things that contradict my attitude... if I have proof I would sue.. simple and no question.

I don't know where you got this "Click here for 75% Rev Share or $5 Pay Per Join" It is and always was $45, but I have taken some points from your post here and added the words "Up To" to remove semantics.

I do hope that makes things clearer, and please, feel free to point out any more specifics you may still be unsure about (as I am sure you and CJ undoubtedly will).

And if you're just "a dumb assed country boy", well, I'll run out and buy another hat to eat after I have digested the one I ate after my last post above.

You got some guts and nuts and thats great in this biz!
For the record I hate the skinning shaving raping shit too...

At least when we pressed you ...you didnt announce on JustBlows that you were retiring from posting on the boards. So that shows you have conviction.

Get with Carla JaYne and line up some time if you want to come on... we can discuss shaving and such from the "down under" prospective.