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JoesHO · 05-12-2004

OK, then for all the nay sayers that are pointing out potential problems, first of all thank you for your feedback.

allow me to ask this question-- I have not been around long (less than a year) as most of you know. Since I have been around the boards, the number one accusation I hear when talking about sponsors, is the shave factor. (in fact it is even built into several programs from what I understand) I hear several things about this.
1.) if coming from an experienced webmaster-- the comment is usually something like this, " if you feel you ARE getting shaved (as oppossed to could possibly be shaved at sometime) then do not use the program, as you obviously do not trust the people, or the program to do what they say they will" I would ask for, and expect, no other treatment from any of you experienced webmasters. ( now ask yourself this question- " of what benifite would it be to us, to do something shady or detrimental to our users, that have such experience? if we were to do that, would this conversation, as well as conversations on every board not ruin our reputation so bad as to put us completly out of the industry? since this program is directly related to needing GOOD knowledgebal industry personell to work benificially? at the very least, on the sponsor side! then it seems obvious to me, that Good positive win/win situations must occur in order to spread the succsess of any program (relationships are too hard to come by, and we value the word of mouth way of doing business in this industry too much, to try for the quick buck, we are here to stay! and that can only happen if we are honest! you know that and so do we! ( I watch people that their only mission is to show other people how much smarter they are than the next guy ,all to often, it would be suicide for me for to attempt something as bold as to shave some of the people here. hell in fact I believe some of the people here even invented the shave , is that not correct? I certainly do not pretend to be smarter than many of you ( I often joke, but we all know that if I was to attempt something shady like shaving, from this program, you would make the crucifiction of Christ look like a sunday school picnic ,compared to the scorn I would suffer. ) I have no interest in doing anything shady in the first place, but like has been said Trust me = fuck you more times than not. I am not asking you to trust me. I am asking you to try a program, and see if you recieve benifites from it that you are satisfied with. and to trust in yourself, that you know when and what if something is not correct with your stats! you obviously will be able to tell, if you use some of your programs that you are familiar with already very intimatly in order to test this theory!

I will save number two for another post, as it concerns the non experienced webmasters point of view, and I know that most people on Oprano, are in the first category.

05-12-2004	#37
JoesHO Members Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,085	OK, then for all the nay sayers that are pointing out potential problems, first of all thank you for your feedback. allow me to ask this question-- I have not been around long (less than a year) as most of you know. Since I have been around the boards, the number one accusation I hear when talking about sponsors, is the shave factor. (in fact it is even built into several programs from what I understand) I hear several things about this. 1.) if coming from an experienced webmaster-- the comment is usually something like this, " if you feel you ARE getting shaved (as oppossed to could possibly be shaved at sometime) then do not use the program, as you obviously do not trust the people, or the program to do what they say they will" I would ask for, and expect, no other treatment from any of you experienced webmasters. ( now ask yourself this question- " of what benifite would it be to us, to do something shady or detrimental to our users, that have such experience? if we were to do that, would this conversation, as well as conversations on every board not ruin our reputation so bad as to put us completly out of the industry? since this program is directly related to needing GOOD knowledgebal industry personell to work benificially? at the very least, on the sponsor side! then it seems obvious to me, that Good positive win/win situations must occur in order to spread the succsess of any program (relationships are too hard to come by, and we value the word of mouth way of doing business in this industry too much, to try for the quick buck, we are here to stay! and that can only happen if we are honest! you know that and so do we! ( I watch people that their only mission is to show other people how much smarter they are than the next guy ,all to often, it would be suicide for me for to attempt something as bold as to shave some of the people here. hell in fact I believe some of the people here even invented the shave , is that not correct? I certainly do not pretend to be smarter than many of you ( I often joke, but we all know that if I was to attempt something shady like shaving, from this program, you would make the crucifiction of Christ look like a sunday school picnic ,compared to the scorn I would suffer. ) I have no interest in doing anything shady in the first place, but like has been said Trust me = fuck you more times than not. I am not asking you to trust me. I am asking you to try a program, and see if you recieve benifites from it that you are satisfied with. and to trust in yourself, that you know when and what if something is not correct with your stats! you obviously will be able to tell, if you use some of your programs that you are familiar with already very intimatly in order to test this theory! I will save number two for another post, as it concerns the non experienced webmasters point of view, and I know that most people on Oprano, are in the first category. __________________ AEBN THE GLOBAL LEADER IN ADULT EVOLUTION something FIT this way comes!