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Understood. Agree. I also think its too early to tell how things are going. But the thing is - A job that has to be done, has to be done. Even if at the moment it doesn't look like its being accomplished well. As to the Afghanistan first... Maybe some people are thinking it's not good to wait whatever tens of years that it would take to generate some positive change in Afghanistan to deal with the next rising danger? When you have a fire in your house in several points, you don't deal with one and move to the next only when the first is cleared and cleaned... You "multi-task"

No doubt that the "fire had to be put out" - but how to put out the fire remains a topic that generates a number of opinions. A firefighter who attempts to put out multiple "hot spots" by himself is probably a fool. A firefighter who does everything in his power to make sure he works alone is even worse.

Here in the United States we've had a number of situations in the last several years where the "backburns" started to stop mid-level fires have turned into conflagrations that far exceeded the possible damage from the original fire.

If the resources deployed to invade Iraq had instead been deployed to rebuild Afghanistan, the "tens of years" you mention could have been reduced substantially. The Taliban/al Qaida crowd - the most dangerous enemy of the United States - are already operating with relative impunity in large portions of Southern and Eastern Afghanistan.

3] Where did I attack the Palestinians????? Please quote me.
I am not surprised you categorize me so quickly and blame me for things I haven't done. After all - "it's what you do". You seem to brief through what I write instead of reading it. Please quote where I just attacked the Palestinians. I want to see for myself.

Okay - if you want to split hairs, you are technically right on this point. You did not directly attack the Palestinian people. You attacked the Palestinian Authority. Spare me the histrionics about "a palestinian state with no law or order" - a good part of the reason for that is the deliberate and prolonged attacks on what few institutions they have been able to develop over the last several years by your government. Not even a truth-impaired idealogue like Dick Cheney would have the balls to lay the blame for the instability of much of Iraq on the inability of Sadam's police to keep order.

As to "those in your(my) country who say the same about Carter and the negotiations with Sadat".. I don't know what you mean by that at all.
Only thing I can tell you is that in my country there are 6.6 million people, and being a democratic country where people usually say what they want - you will find "those in your(my) country who say almost anything about anyone". Thats called diversity of thoughts. Since when did that become bad?

We can agree that democracy and diversity of thought are good things. But gimme a break - you know exactly what I mean. There are some in your country who think that the solution to all problems in dealing with the Arab/Islamic world is (or should have been) military - and Camp David is viewed as a defeat by those people. To my knowledge, there are not many of them. There are potent political forces in your country that will do anything within their power to prevent the evolution of a Palestinian State. Clinton was far more committed to an EQUITABLE solution to the Israeli/Palistinian solution than GW is, the faux threat of withheld loan guarantees to the contrary.

BTW ... I do enjoy debating with you. Although it's a tad late, L'shanah tovah.