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Have you seen me singing the praises of, or even coming close to defending, the idiotic antics of the "ecoterrorists" in this thread?

Other than the slip about "hiding behind a just cause", no. But, I don't see where I really made that an issue.

I reacted to the extremism of your language, just as I would have if a PETA freak stumbled into Oprano.

I guess this pretty much sums it up.

What you took isue with and labled as extrem language was my statement that 99% of environmentalists were either wackos or misguided sheep.

I asked you to name 10 that were not, you couldn't.

I then pointed out that for every 10 that you could name (if you could) there are 100k that are wackos of misinformed.

Now, please tell me why that is so devoid of reason that you feel compelled to label it as extreme language and compare it to the antics of the "radical environmentalists"?

In case you missed it behind your assumptions about what I believe, I HAVE NOTHING BUT CONTEMPT for the antics of these fools. As an old leftist with a little bit of knowledge and experience with nonviolent movements I have a certain amount of respect for civil disobedience, but vandalism is not civil disobedience by any stretch of the imagination.

Who would have guessed? LOL I never in this thread put "you" as an individual into the pot with these folks nor did I quetion your contempt for them. But, now I see why you are so defensive.

Where you and I part company is that you wish to paint all environmental organizations with the same brush - and that just doesn't wash, any more than the equally simple-minded conclusion that all corporations would be willing to create another Bhopal by their very nature.

You can jump to all the conclusions and make all the assumptions you want, but the math is still the same.

I suspect that your opinion comes from the your libertarian belief that the market will take care of things; where it comes from is not important. I hold almost all the "isms" in equal contempt.

You suspect?? More assumtions, huh. ;(( What correlation does this have with my comments, anyway?

As far as whether I am a moderate or not ... the most radical tree huggers I know would admit that the only possible way to keep Oprano from ultimately falling over flat on its right side is to sacrifice a couple of old-growth Sequoias. It's not hard to come across as a fire-breathing leftist where folks can talk with a straight face about liberals and other believers of foreign ideologies, or the socialist state of California.

I'm sure that every Opranite goes to bed with a little prayer thanking you for your sacrifice.