[PornoDoggy]

Mike, I think it was tragic that the wackos in Waco dragged their own children into it. I find it mildly amusing - although somewhat disturbing - that normally "law and order" folks accuse the government of "murdering" those children simply because the clowns that put those kids in that situation pass some kind of rhetorical litmus test.

I don't agree with the morons on the left who blame the U.S government for civilians killed in wartime; I also don't agree with people who want to excuse criminal conduct, or criticize the government's action to enforce the laws, when the suspect/lawbreaker happens to spout the right rhetoric about the 2nd Ammendment.

I have a sneaking suspicion that you would be more than willing to bend over backwards to defend Ashcroft in this same situation - even though I think he WOULD go in in 48 hours or 72 hours, and not piss around with them. I also suspect that if it was an armed camp of PETA wackos who were asserting their 2nd Ammendment rights you would feel far less sympathy.

The "Constitutional Rights" arguement doesn't cut it with me - first of all, I'm not aware of a Constitutional Right to break the law. Additionally, I - like the U.S. Supreme Court and virtually all mainstream Americans, left and right - don't question the constitutionality of the laws the ATF was sent in to enforce.

Now - the question I have to ask myself is - would I defend Ashcroft in the same situation? I'd like to think I would - but I can't be absolutely sure about that.



Last edited by PornoDoggy at Jun 10 2003, 12:16 AM