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Originally posted by Dianna Vesta@May 30 2003, 07:05 AM
>>>Controversy sells>>>
To some degree but it's all about balance.
>>>>Respectfully I disagree with DV, Oprano doesn't need scripts and so on as most people here have made it in the business and already have what they need or know where to get it>>>
Here's the thing... for Oprano or any webmaster board to be successful (this is my thinking & opinions) they need a vast market. See previous email about different types of webmasters. Newbies needs scripts & there's a HUGE ass population of closet webmaster running small sites, tpgs and avs's, that promote the sponsors that PAY Oprano to be here. Collectively they make up a huge chunk of traffic. I didn't even realize how big until I started investigating TPG’s and AVS as being an alternate traffic source.
If you’ve been here a while you’ll read between the lines and know that the traffic kings are here. A traffic trading script would be great here, especially if someone worked with the webmasters. That’s just one idea. Team up with a company that already has this tool, offer an Oprano version. Seed the script with sponsor ads. There’s all kinds of scripts these smaller or even mid-size webmasters would use.
As for the newsletter. There are very few I read. There's an art to them.
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I agree with you Diana...
If I want to check out some piss marketing I troll over to GFY and watch Serge fuck with them there. Brilliant way to keep getting that tag line out there in everyones face because you know they are reading it...hell its GFY! Thats what they are there for. The downside of that is do you want to have to wade thru that kind of crap over here as well? Case in point is the influx of those type of posters in this thread. I find myself more at Oprano because Im tired of reading mornic paid posts from Staff members. I mean really -- if you dont have any sites up and running what would motivate an individual to post "IMAKEBEERMONEY.COM converts like crazy?" Do they think everyone is so stupid that no one realizes they havent even had as much as a TGP running since bannerfree.com at C.O.N.D.O.M. ?
The Vast marketing angle is also plausible. Everyone is looking for automation tools -- you can outsource some here for members. My guess is that theres a deal to be struck with some coders where Oprano would get a slice of the action [Signs, Signs, Signs].
And your right ...its not so much as newbies as it is there are people out there quietly running several sites at once under a TGP or AVS umbrella and making serious bucks. A lot of people dont come into forums dick waving just to be "pimpin large." Hell look at Peaches...as far as I know she doesnt have any pay sites!
As far as revenue issues ...I think its become VERY hard to throw up a resource board and get 5K a month for an "identicon" button. Pay Site owners are looking for a ROI as opposed to vanity. However I do agree that a new program would be well served to advertise here. There are several folks here that could throw enough productive traffic at the site to make it very reasonable.
I like the newsletter idea the art of it --at least in my book -- is for me to get that email or 2 a week letting me know whats going on on the board or what I missing out on. And if your giving something away for me just showing up...thats at least good for a look.
The sports pool is a good idea becasue it wraps a lot of those ideas together. People like contests!
Foregoing all of that...the real reason I come over here, is that I can easily check in a few times a day...see if anything of note is going on in the industry, do a little networking, look at what other people are doing and get a little debate action on business related topics.
Thats why I have taken other sites off my freqently visited list.