wow PD, you sound really defensive at times. i dont know why you would start making personal attacks. i did not say "you said bush was an idiot" i was referring to a world view that seems to be quite popular. i was not aware that you thought i was dumb or a moron.
maybe its just how i read things or how i write them. i understand hostility considering that i am really a smart ass sometimes. I think you are one of the best people at defending a position that often seems to be in a minority around here. i have a tremendous amount of respect for you for being able to do that well.... and for not backing down.
in my opinion the problem is time. tick-tock tick-tock. every second lost is another second gained in there race to achieve their stated purpose of becoming a bigger threat. They are actively working to build multi-stage rockets capable of delivering a nuclear warhead. they are actively working towards making nuclear bombs.
i would not say that Bush has tried diplomacy at all after thinking about it. basically he put them on notice... people went to Korea to confront them about their nuclear program... after that, there has not been any real communication between the two governments that i am aware of besides Richard Butler meeting some Korean officials.
i think that diplomacy has failed and has proven to be a failure with them on this issue. they are painting themselves into a corner with all the "die america, die" rhetoric which makes even dialog impossible and makes it clear that they are definately intent on becomming a bigger and better threat.
They dont want to talk to China
They dont want to talk to S. Korea
The dont want to talk to Russia
they only want to talk to the US. Bush has insisted that it is an issue that needs to be solved collectively between the US and the concerned parties in the region and N. Korea has spit on that suggestion repeatedly as well.
i did not propose to strike them. i said that it looks like they are forcing that possibility to become reality. The US did not put 24 B-2's in Guam with Nuclear payloads "just because" - i would imagine that is the preferred option in dealing the problem effectively in a military sense. of course, it would be one of the greatest human tragedies ever. Of course its not something anyone wants to do.
my point is simply - what are the options? to make the argument for "Diplomacy" the argument has to be made that "diplomacy" has or can work. so far there has been every indication to the contrary.
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