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Originally posted by RawAlex@Mar 31 2003, 12:31 PM
The funniest part of it all is the same people that were pissed off at Clinton for not getting UN permission are the same people now pissed off that he didn't finish the job. History has been carefully re-written to show that Clinton backed down... that he wimped out. Those same people never mention that things could have been fixed in 1991... and we wouldn't be here now.
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Alex,
You are so easy. You just pulled a Rush Limbaugh.
Now let's look at the silly thing you just said. You intentionally left out the parts of the argument that would quickly and simply nullify your argument.
If the debate is whether the US should only act militarily with UN approval, why would you
point to a conservative president that DID act with UN approval? Bush II didn't have a UN
resolution. Clinton didn't have a UN resolution. Bush Sr. did and he followed it.
Am I to understand you that you think Bush Sr. should have acted outside of the UN resolution
in order for future presidents to act with in it?
No, of course not. EXACTLY like you claim of Rush Limbaugh, you presented facts that support your position, even if they are are very misleading and impertinent. Besides, it contradicts the original thesis, it doesn't support it.
Bush Sr. is a shining example of how one WOULD get UN approval for an action.
You'll notice that I gave an example of where both conservatives and liberals were being
inconsistent.
"It's no different than a liberal who gets upset when Bush acts without UN approval but didn't care when Clinton acted without UN approval."
"It's no different than a conservative who got upset at Clinton for wanting to bomb Iraq in 1998 and then suddenly becomes in favor of a war against Iraq in 2003."
You jumped all over the one and not that other. Why? It has nothing to do with objectivity. You are attempting to choose an arbitrary starting point in a sequence of historical events to demonstrate your point.
Worst of all, you contradicted the original argument in order to try and show that "conservatives are wrong", not to try and demonstrate an honest assessment.
You are a liberal Rush Limbaugh.
Last edited by Colin at Mar 31 2003, 01:27 PM