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cj · 03-13-2003

I was nodding along until this sentence:

>> I truthfully feel that if a woman would consider having an abortion she really shouldn't be a mother anyways (she'll probably just create a delinquent).

wow, where to start on this one ... you just insulted a whole bunch of women who have considered this option along with the many other decisions that come from a MISTAKE. I'm sure someone else will tackle this one, you just opened up someone else's emotional torment with this blanket statement ... your on your own here ;-)

all processes of abortion are awful ... salting, scraping and drowning the *thing* out of the mother. there's no pretty way to do it ... but you emotionalize (new word) the process by saying this:

>>I hate the thought of a beautiful little child being killed by irresponsible adults

you raise visuals of grown and formed *children* running around and playing in the yard ... we all shriek at the thought of that child being killed.

nobody is killing a child ... this is a foetus, barely formed and (debatable) incapable of feeling pain (in the way we interpret it).

in many cases it takes *MORE* responsibility to say "I can't have this baby" than it does to do what you are told to do by society. If you think that the woman making this choice is simply irresponsible, then you should look at some cases where abortion SHOULD HAVE been the choice. You have children, and I'm sure they are the absolute pride of your life, but you have squillions of dollars ... you aren't in a position where you can make a judgement on a women who has been deserted by the father of her children and is left to get by on welfare. again, blanket choice for a not blanket situation.

you are using extreme's to make your case such as this:

>>Lets have fun and be irresponsible with our behavior and hell, if we get pregnant, we'll just cut it out, LITERALLY.

this is one argument against abortion that is valid, however, the amount of people in society who do this is comparable to how many alcoholics exist in a society where alcohol is legal to consume in any volume. there are certain people who should be sent to the desert and shot because they can't live their lives responsibly ... but that's not enough to make a case overall for every other persons choices.

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cj Members Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Down Under Posts: 5,202	I was nodding along until this sentence: >> I truthfully feel that if a woman would consider having an abortion she really shouldn't be a mother anyways (she'll probably just create a delinquent). wow, where to start on this one ... you just insulted a whole bunch of women who have considered this option along with the many other decisions that come from a MISTAKE. I'm sure someone else will tackle this one, you just opened up someone else's emotional torment with this blanket statement ... your on your own here ;-) all processes of abortion are awful ... salting, scraping and drowning the thing out of the mother. there's no pretty way to do it ... but you emotionalize (new word) the process by saying this: >>I hate the thought of a beautiful little child being killed by irresponsible adults you raise visuals of grown and formed children running around and playing in the yard ... we all shriek at the thought of that child being killed. nobody is killing a child ... this is a foetus, barely formed and (debatable) incapable of feeling pain (in the way we interpret it). in many cases it takes MORE responsibility to say "I can't have this baby" than it does to do what you are told to do by society. If you think that the woman making this choice is simply irresponsible, then you should look at some cases where abortion SHOULD HAVE been the choice. You have children, and I'm sure they are the absolute pride of your life, but you have squillions of dollars ... you aren't in a position where you can make a judgement on a women who has been deserted by the father of her children and is left to get by on welfare. again, blanket choice for a not blanket situation. you are using extreme's to make your case such as this: >>Lets have fun and be irresponsible with our behavior and hell, if we get pregnant, we'll just cut it out, LITERALLY. this is one argument against abortion that is valid, however, the amount of people in society who do this is comparable to how many alcoholics exist in a society where alcohol is legal to consume in any volume. there are certain people who should be sent to the desert and shot because they can't live their lives responsibly ... but that's not enough to make a case overall for every other persons choices.