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Old 03-07-2003   #27
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Originally posted by Trev@Mar 7 2003, 12:17 PM
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disgust I felt by some of the opinions expressed on this thread.
T-Rav I must apologize for my posts as looking at them they are quite clearly obscene and the comments of an ignorant bigot, I know this about myself and it's something I'll have to live with, but my opinions no matter how obscene, ingnorant or bigoted are still my opinions.

I do get vexed and most angry when the subject of terror and terrorists is raised, especially when people claim that as humans they have rights, when they obviously don’t see the rest of the world as having rights or as humans to some extent.

I don't want our society to start acting as they do, clearly with no regard for human life or the suffering they cause with their actions, but I do wonder if the world would defend us or go up in arms if we did!

I think not.
Your opinions are your opinions...and my opinions are my opinions.

That is why I deleted what I had written earlier. I think it is very important that everyone have their own opinion and I am happy to hear opinions that differ from mine. Sometimes I do get a little disgusted, that also is my right.

Rolo, you mentioned that even the most civilized person would resort to violence under certain circumstances. Make no mistake about it...simply because I do not agree with torture, I do believe whole heartedly that violence is absolutely necessary in many situations. Sometimes you have to stand up for what you believe and be willing to die or kill defending or protecting those beliefs.

Now, let me put this to you. Many of the arguments for torturing the terrorists have been to protect us from future terrorist activity or dismantle their organization or some other "defensive" argument.

If you knew you could get the information we needed to protect us further by torturing one of the terrorist's children, would that be acceptable? All you have to do is torture one child, and you potentially save thousands. I find other methods...but that's just me...
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