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Old 02-11-2003   #50
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Babenet is not the first to run backends for other people and they won't be the last. I'm not sure what the big deal is with their setup -- it's similar to an ARS BYOT, somewhat similar to an AVS -- after all, other people are building sites and the premise is that surfers get that site and more content -- a surfer that joins two platinum avs sites from the same vendor gets the same additional content with those avs memberships... I think PMB was one of the first doing a build your own tour type of setup, years ago...

Of course when other people have these types of ideas, and I've seen one really good one that is along the course of Babenet's, I venture to say people won't be bitching nearly so loud since it's someone else handling the backend. But at the end of the day its the same setup.

If you truly believe that ONE company can affect Visa that much, and that company is not an ISPS, you probably have too much time on your hands. If you don't like Babenet, that's fine, say so and go on about your business, but don't get on a soapbox about their business practices which are not so very different from many others.

I haven't paid much attention to their actual signup process, but Visa's got specific rules about what has to go where for the disclosure and Visa's also got a company out surfing adult web sites full time looking for violations -- so if there are that many people using this setup, do you not think that Visa is aware of it... not to mention Babenet's bank?

I am not seeing where this is an MLM either... it's my understanding that Babenet is paying the intermediary, ie Piecash (just using you as an example Shan) and then it's up to the intermediary to determine how much and when to pay the reseller. Babenet in no way guarantees what will be paid to resellers as far as amounts, dates, etc that I've seen in all this...

Just seems to be making a lot of ado about nothing really important.
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