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Originally posted by Mike AI@Jan 28 2003, 09:52 AM
Grimm I am impressed.... you are comnig around!!! 
>Haha how is that?
I too feel Bush has done a poor job laying out the issues in Iraq. While I understand them, I think the average American does not. Bush has used high rhetoric without any real foundation to it.
>I agree with you here, i am largely unimpressed by the way the white house has handled dissemination of good solid information. but i do understand what is at stake and why war is necessary, if not inevitable.
I just dont think a lot of america digs deep enough
I hope tonight, he goes and lays down a foundation with DOCUMENTED EVIDENCIARY proof, just like in a court of law. I want to see or hear about specific inteligence we have captured of Iraq hiding weapons, testimony from IRaqis dissident scientiest, etc.... He needs to do this, or else he will have a lot of skeptics about the war.
Me too!
Of course we should have handled this years ago, but we had a President who just put band-aids on major open sores in the past.
>This has been the case in countless decades in history, i thought the idea of a politician is to put lipstick on the pig
Iraq has never lived up to their Cease Fire agreement with coalition foreced from the first Gulf War - and of course firing on our planes is a violation as well.
>This is why it is bottom line necessary. if rules are not enforced, they are not rules
Bottom line is, Bush is going to lay out real solid, irrefutable evidence of what has been going on -
Evidence of Weapons Concealment to Be Shared in Effort to Boost Support for War
We will then give a deadline, one that makes us look like we are giving oen last chance - something we can do since we need the month to get all of our troops in place.
> did we not do that the other night?
Hopefully France and Germany will come around, and I have a feeling they will when they see it is inevitable that we are going to go in. Everyone likes to jump on side of winner to try and enjoy spoils of war.
>That and nobody likes to be left hanging
War should last less then 2 weeks on the ground, air campaign might be another 2-3 weeks prior to it....
Hopefully there will be few casualties, especially on our side.
The American people will rally around the President, like they always do in war.
> as long as it doesnt go on to long, and someone locks jane fonda in a trunk.
The press and pundits and democrats will hem and haw, look for things to criticize and attack Bush on.
But it will be a success, the US Military will end up staying in IRaq for 40-50 years.... but will stabilzie IRaq turn it into a democracy, anda free market economy. IRaq will be a beacon of freedom in all areas, and will put pressure on the dictatorships and oppresive regiems in the middle east.
People in saudi arabais, syria, iran, egypt will want to be like Iraq - free to do what they want, to live their lives, and of coure imprve their lives through FREE MARKETS and CAPITALISM.....
Yadda yadda yadda....
IF we shrink away from IRaq now, the US and the world is fucked.... PERIOD!
>we will never have a leg to stand on
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Grimm I am impressed.... you are comnig around!!!
>Haha how is that?
I too feel Bush has done a poor job laying out the issues in Iraq. While I understand them, I think the average American does not. Bush has used high rhetoric without any real foundation to it.
>I agree with you here, i am largely unimpressed by the way the white house has handled dissemination of good solid information. but i do understand what is at stake and why war is necessary, if not inevitable.
I just dont think a lot of america digs deep enough
I hope tonight, he goes and lays down a foundation with DOCUMENTED EVIDENCIARY proof, just like in a court of law. I want to see or hear about specific inteligence we have captured of Iraq hiding weapons, testimony from IRaqis dissident scientiest, etc.... He needs to do this, or else he will have a lot of skeptics about the war.
Me too!
Of course we should have handled this years ago, but we had a President who just put band-aids on major open sores in the past.
>This has been the case in countless decades in history, i thought the idea of a politician is to put lipstick on the pig
Iraq has never lived up to their Cease Fire agreement with coalition foreced from the first Gulf War - and of course firing on our planes is a violation as well.
>This is why it is bottom line necessary. if rules are not enforced, they are not rules
Bottom line is, Bush is going to lay out real solid, irrefutable evidence of what has been going on -
Evidence of Weapons Concealment to Be Shared in Effort to Boost Support for War
We will then give a deadline, one that makes us look like we are giving oen last chance - something we can do since we need the month to get all of our troops in place.
> did we not do that the other night?
Hopefully France and Germany will come around, and I have a feeling they will when they see it is inevitable that we are going to go in. Everyone likes to jump on side of winner to try and enjoy spoils of war.
>That and nobody likes to be left hanging
War should last less then 2 weeks on the ground, air campaign might be another 2-3 weeks prior to it....
Hopefully there will be few casualties, especially on our side.
The American people will rally around the President, like they always do in war.
> as long as it doesnt go on to long, and someone locks jane fonda in a trunk.
The press and pundits and democrats will hem and haw, look for things to criticize and attack Bush on.
But it will be a success, the US Military will end up staying in IRaq for 40-50 years.... but will stabilzie IRaq turn it into a democracy, anda free market economy. IRaq will be a beacon of freedom in all areas, and will put pressure on the dictatorships and oppresive regiems in the middle east.
People in saudi arabais, syria, iran, egypt will want to be like Iraq - free to do what they want, to live their lives, and of coure imprve their lives through FREE MARKETS and CAPITALISM.....
Yadda yadda yadda....
IF we shrink away from IRaq now, the US and the world is fucked.... PERIOD!
>we will never have a leg to stand on