plugger, can I ask you .... have you ever employed a programmer?
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Cj,
You're right, I will probably get into some trouble because I just call 'em as I see 'em.
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i've never understood why anyone uses this as a character advantage or mentions it as a 'personal quality' ... if you DIDN'T 'call it as you see it' it would make you a liar/fraud/weak .... or as we say in oz, a big fucking pussy
so all you really said there is 'i'm not a big fucking pussy'
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When I see things like "We are looking for a hobbyist that loves to program", I read that as "We don't want to pay you the $100/hour your worth".
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'hobbiest' is a way of saying 'we want someone who really loves what they do' ... why? the best programmers (or employees of any kind for that matter) are the ones who love their job to the point that they still do it even outside of work hours ... in the end, most hobbyists can end up being paid a lot more due to their level of commitment.
my programmer is a hobbyist, he fucking rocks. he can build anything i ask him to ... why? because he loves finding out how ....
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Now, I do not know Colin, he may be a great guy, that is why I prefaced my post with the "No offense" deal. When I get to know him better I will be more straight forward. At this point I want to be at least halfway respectful. It is a hard line to walk. What I really want to say is "Dude? Do you want a fucking programer or a fucking hobbyist? Programmers make money, hobbyist collect coins!". That is what I would say to someone I knew better . . .
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well, your first post was patronizing and condescending .... and now you say you wanted to be halfway respectful?
too late ;-)