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Old 01-19-2003   #17
-= JR =-
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Originally posted by Torone@Jan 18 2003, 03:39 PM
Jr,
My point went sailing right over your head. If people had to write that check, it wouldn't be painless like it is with withholding. That would bring an end to the career of any tax-hungry politician.

As for fairness, the idea of 'fair share' is determined by who? Fair should mean equal. After all, who is using the social services, etc.?

As for wealthy, according to the Liberals' figures delineating the classes, that means any person or family with a combined income above $92,000 per year. Most of those do not realize that they are wealthy. They can't go pay cash for a car or a house. Still, they are supposed to pay for the masses who choose not to work; but to stay home and breed (more money for each child you have).

One more point...When was the last time you got a job from a 'poor' man?
Torone, i understand that you spend a lot more time than most listening to A.M. Talk Radio and your views are a little warped. this occured to me after the first time you mentioned being a truck driver. Everything you say comes directly from conservative talk radio, which i would consider about as balanced as a Barbara Streisand lecture on economics.

your point is nothing unique. its been tried by many employers and people have gotten in trouble for it. i even knew a guy in Seattle who tried to do the same thing. if i recall correctly, he was giving people a mock check for the full amount, then giving them seperate checks and asking them to mail all the taxes and withholding in themselves. Gas stations do it all the time too. they post long explainations of all the taxes involved in selling gas to explain why gas prices are high... and people still dont care.

for some reason you think that a country can run itself without taxes, that its a communist conspiracy and that Clinton somehow, started the whole thing, but thats actually not the case.

i pay a VERY small part of my income in taxes and i dont break the law. Thats a fact. the money i pay for attorneys and accountants comes back to me 10-fold in tax savings. I have no sympathy for people who piss and moan and complain about they paid in taxes when they are not doing everything possible to lower them. you have to be proactive and spend time structuring your finances and investments and business in a way that minimizes tax liability, thats all. its not difficult.



Last edited by -= JR =- at Jan 19 2003, 01:45 AM
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