TGP traffic has finally turned into such crap that even the best tgp'ers are looking for jobs. I know at least 3 people that made their living doing nothing but tgp submitting now not making enough money to pay their bills and had to get real jobs to make ends meet. These were people making over 100k/yr that were happy with it that now have ratios of 1:5000. A feel a big shakeout is finally going to happen in 2003 in that area which should be good for everyone except the people at the bottom.
Epoch's turnaround is definately a huge victory story. A couple years ago I wouldn't promote anyone that used them as a processor. Now, I prefer them. I remember sitting in Miami last year at cybernet expo and listening to Clay speak about how they were turning things around and thinking, "yeah, right." I was definately wrong about them and I'm glad I was.
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