Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 819145)

If a taser isn't stopping the guy, there is a problem. Without knowing all of the situation, I tend to side with the police in these sorts of deals. Officers don't just randomly shoot people for fun, the paperwork is hell!

Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 819146)

No, but in Vancouver, they do shoot them out of ignorance. In this case, however, I would bet on the police being the good guys.

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 819145)

Officers don't just randomly shoot people for fun, the paperwork is hell!

Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 819150)

I admire my cats. That is all they do and have a great life.

Originally Posted by ali25extreme (Post 819144)

Police Shoot Homeless Man In Downtown Miami

The Victim Is Only Being Identified As A Homeless Man

Shooting Happened At NE 1st Avenue and 7th Street

MIAMI (CBS4) ― A man who allegedly lunged at police in a Downtown Miami street was shot dead Tuesday evening.

According to police, an off-duty officer was working a detail at Camillus House, where a male at the facility was harassing a woman. The officer escorted the man from the premises, but following the incident, he was called outside to take care of another disturbance allegedly caused by the same man. He was allegedly holding up a broken bottle and was acting irrationally.

Officials say the officer called for back-up to arrive instead of taking action. Three additional officers arrived and at that time they tried to bring the man under control.

Police claim the man told them, "you're not taking me alive."

Despite discharging their Taser guns and striking the man twice, he allegedly continued to lunge toward them, forcing one of the officers to fire at him.

He was shot and killed on scene.


Some pedestrian on scene didn't understand how three officers weren't able to handle this man without shooting at him, but police spokesman Delrish Moss says these situations aren't simple.
"You know what, several years ago when I came on the Miami Police Department for the first time, there was a situation where a guy was about 21 feet away from two officers," said Moss. "They fired several shots, hitting him, and he managed to travel that 21 feet and still stab both of those officers in the stomach. So it seems like it's cut and dry, but the situation at that time and the circumstances dictate the outcome."

A number of witnesses were present during the entire incident and are currently being interviewed by police.

Police have not released the man's identity but do say he was homeless

http://cbs4.com/local/Downtown.Miami....2.793727.html

Gonzo check this spot out. Look like anywhere you might know?

Originally Posted by DannyCox (Post 819153)

They do here in Quebec! Hell, they always have!

Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 819162)

Wow werent we just there?

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 819170)

I use to go down to that area years ago with friends and take food down to the guys living on the street.

Then the city of miami made it a misdemeanor to feed the homeless without a permit.

One of the reasons I dont live in dade county. They are a bunch of cluless fucktards.

Originally Posted by ali25extreme (Post 819186)

That is so sick, to make it a crime to help out those in need. WOW :scratchin Why I wonder...do you think it is for your own safety kinda thing?

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 819189)

they were/are trying to clean up the streets of the homless around the carnival center. They think the homless are like animals. remove the food and they will leave

Originally Posted by ali25extreme (Post 819186)

That is so sick, to make it a crime to help out those in need. WOW :scratchin Why I wonder...do you think it is for your own safety kinda thing?

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 819193)

If you help them, feed them, provide shelter for them (or at least blankets, plastic to make tents, whatever) they will continue to stay around there, and further, they will have no incentive to change what they are doing. If anything, it will attract more homeless people, and marginal people (who have a place to stay) might spend their days down their collecting free food rather than actually looking to get ahead.

The best help you can give many of these people is to stop helping them continue to be homeless or on the margins. Feeding them and keeping them just barely going makes it worse, not better.

Originally Posted by ali25extreme (Post 819198)

I like helping people out as long as they want to help themselves. I can understand why not feeding them but in this area..no one lived there or so it seemed..it was nest to a homeless shelter in the first place so I dont see why not help to give them food. it is hard to get off your feet with an empty stomach and with out a clean shave.

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 819210)

Alex

you are obviously clueless to the plight of some of the people on the street. many of them have sever mental issues where they are not able to care for themselevs. Yet the state has deemed that they are not worthy of govt assistance ie hospitalization. While this is not the case for all but it is for a very large %. so what are they to do? rely on the families that want nothing to do with them? Turn to the state who has said no to them with 0 recourse? where are they to go? Maybe you should volunteer at a soup kitchen sometime to get a glimpse of real poverty and social outcast.

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 819226)

Ali, I have begged for money on the streets, I have lived "nowhere", and heck, I have shoveled horse shit for a living. The difference is that I was willing to work, no matter how ugly the work was. These days, I suspect I could cage enough change on the streets and eat enough free food to live okay and actually rent a room somewhere - and none of it would encourage me to get a real job or get help for issues I might be facing.

Caring is helping people get out of a bad situation, not giving them pillows so they can be more comfortable on that park bench.

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 819145)

If a taser isn't stopping the guy, there is a problem.

Originally Posted by ali25extreme (Post 819230)

I can only offer what I could give..just figured something is better than nothing. I can see where you are coming from.

Originally Posted by PervertInPueblaMexico (Post 819455)

They had to shoot the guy? Unarmed? What a bunch of pussies those cops are.