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gonzo 08-12-2008 12:15 AM

Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years
 
Sordid tale. He gets cops the guilty plea for a light sentence as opposed to taking his chances.

The untold peice of the puzzle is an employee on the inside violated his probation and tuned states witness.

Cash Titians affilaite money was filerted into a girlfriends account to the total of 65K and then turned over to the Feds.

Same employee wiretapped conversation in an effort to coerce information for the case. Turned over all Cash Titians affilate information....so if you are like me you are again on the Feds radar.

If thats not enough to try and pick up any other ammunition the Feds attended the '06 Miami Internext show incognito. So all you smoking dope and snorting coke....your now on their radar.

All defendants are currently in jail in Pensicola.

Oprano will be recieving a statement from both Ray Guhn and Andy Craft in the next few days.

Hipchick 08-12-2008 12:24 AM

Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years
 
Umm.. Just to make things clear..The employee and girlfriend that turned on Ray Guhn WAS NOT Jim Manley aka Andy Craft and his girlfriend. That would be me and I was at that internext. Just wanted to clear that up before anyone made assumptions. I will leave it up to you to put the pieces together of who is the real shitbag.

Hipchick 08-12-2008 12:32 AM

Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years
 
Here is the news article

http://www.pnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...NTPAGECAROUSEL


this quote basically sums up the truth..

NO illegal acts were commited by Mr. McCowen. This was a clear case of DA abuse. All taxes were paid, all legal docs were in place and all requirements for opperating a 100% LEGAL adult content site were followed. No person under age of 18 was ever involved. In fact the judges summary states thet there were no grounds for any of the other charges brought against Mr McCowen. Some grey areas were infringed on by the employees, but all in all it came down to the DA's office bankrupting everyone involved and refusing to end this fiasco unless everyone pled to something. No details are listed about the "illegal wire transfer". No evidence at all making this a "deal" between the DA and the courts just to see this all go away. The statutes sugest an 8 to 10 months suspended sentence for this, but the DA's office threatened to proceed with it and tie up the court for months if there wasnt "heavy" punishment. Russ Edgar is a blight on this country and this state, as well as his profession!

DannyCox 08-12-2008 01:00 AM

Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years
 
It's really too bad that the guys didn't get a real attorney for this, and not just someone who plays one on the Internet (just my opinion). I'm sure it would have gone a lot better for them.

When is the appeal happening?

softball 08-12-2008 01:27 AM

Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years
 
the most expensive thing you will ever buy is a cheap attorney.

RawAlex 08-12-2008 12:56 PM

Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years
 
This case once again touches on the problem of producing porn in the US and what certain DAs with an agenda will do to shut you down.

Sadly, it would appear that his lawyers gave him somewhat less than the best advice (my opinion only) because they seem to have negotiated a settlement WITHOUT specifying the punishment, and as a result, he gets 4 years on a charge that most people would get a slap on the hands and a gentle financial reaming on.

The intenation was to stop the production of porn, and the DA has succeeded in that regard. Too bad Ray and others will have to take it up the ass for a while as a result.

Forest 08-12-2008 01:40 PM

Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 819059)
If thats not enough to try and pick up any other ammunition the Feds attended the '06 Miami Internext show incognito. So all you smoking dope and snorting coke....your now on their radar.

think they got pics of my pool side blow job?

Oh wait that was 2003. Phew Im safe

ali25extreme 08-12-2008 02:22 PM

Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 819100)
think they got pics of my pool side blow job?

Oh wait that was 2003. Phew Im safe

So far!!:unsure: Still going thru my pics..ya never know what I might have..:whistling

Forest 08-12-2008 04:14 PM

Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ali25extreme (Post 819103)
So far!!:unsure: Still going thru my pics..ya never know what I might have..:whistling

Curses foiled again

Hammer 08-14-2008 05:07 PM

Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 819068)
the most expensive thing you will ever buy is a cheap attorney.

ummmm... Larry Walters is far from cheap. Maybe not good but certainly not cheap.

DannyCox 08-14-2008 05:13 PM

Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 819271)
Maybe not good but certainly not cheap.

in your opinion

(add that qualifier, and it limits your liability in what's being said since it's now just a personal opinion and not libelous) ;)

softball 08-14-2008 05:17 PM

Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyCox (Post 819274)
in your opinion

(add that qualifier, and it limits your liability in what's being said since it's now just a personal opinion and not libelous) ;)

Don't you think the "maybe" is a qualifier?

RawAlex 08-14-2008 05:19 PM

Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 819068)
the most expensive thing you will ever buy is a cheap attorney.

Actually, possibly the most expensive thing you can get is an attorney that loves to talk a good game and then remarkably encourages everyone to plea bargain.

But hey.

softball 08-14-2008 05:20 PM

Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years
 
So does anyone know Mr. Walter's track record? First I heard of him was a case where he defended Becka Lynn, who I believe went on to be a c and w singer.

DannyCox 08-14-2008 05:25 PM

Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years
 
He also defended Barbi from blondflasher.com when she had the site barbieflashes.com. This was way back in 1998 or 1999. Mattel sued them and Larry recommended they settle out of court for $5K. The thing is, she had been know as Barbie since she was a child and wasn't infringing on the trade mark in any way. It was just a nonsense case that would have been immediately thrown out.


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