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Bigsister 11-09-2005 06:51 PM

Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Hi,



I am trying to push a paysite with decent traffic and conversion rate, what interests me is how to generally advertise our own affiliate program.



I tried:



1} Mail offers, but I actually recieved one answer from 340 mails sent. I supppose most of my mails had to be regarded as a SPAM mail (which is quite unfair because I had some serious work and expectations with it :)), I also posted this to each webmaster separately.



2} Other way I try is to participate on the Adult webmaster forums, I found some fellow mates, but it's a long way till I get recognized there and not accused of spamming, which I try to avoid nowadays.



3} The registration of domains and setting up the free movie sites which I want to engage to the Free MGP sites, that's in progress now, but this is more focused on new users and traffic.



4) a paid advertisement - didn't tried yet, as I am not sure with the efficiency and very careful on releasing funds (approx price about 1 400 USD / month).



Is there any system, which would be able to connect me with a list of reliable webmasters for a decent sales commission?



Best Regards,



Carlos

TheEnforcer 11-09-2005 07:07 PM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Carlos, advertising at this forum gets you noticed to be sure. I work for two top notch places that get your affiliate program recognized as I handle the advertrising for both here at Oprano and AllOfEm.com. Both places will get you program exposed to new webmasters and get them to check it out and start sending traffic if they like what they see. I'll be happy totalk advertising with you to see what we can get going for you.

TheEnforcer 11-09-2005 07:11 PM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Sent you some e-mail.....

Bigsister 11-09-2005 07:53 PM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Thanks,

I will consider that for sure.

The other thing which I try to involve in, is that I am trying to listen to feedback from the webmasters, what could be improved: content, design, functionality etc. I feel the site has lot of potential, which is cut with relatively easy to solve mistakes.

Red 11-09-2005 08:21 PM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
You can only do so much to push an affiliate program without advertising and like TE said, this is a great place to advertise.

Have you listed yourself with all the resource sites? If not, that should be your first place. Go to every adult resource site and get yourself listed. Next, send out a press release announcing the release of your program. (If you don't know how to write one, please contact me red AT writtentemptations.com)

As far as the boards, you need to do more than just spam your program. You need to get involved in the webmaster community, have your sig placed and in time, as the webmasters get to know and trust you, they'll sign up.

If you're making galleries, make sure you put a "webmaster" link at the bottom of each one that links to your program.

Getting a new affiliate program off the ground isn't easy, though it can be done. There was an affiliate program with God awful sites, yet a very talented woman, with absolutely no help and no money to work with, was able to get over 200 affiliates in only 4 month's time. ;)

Bigsister 11-09-2005 08:45 PM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Thanks for the tips and hints, some of them are already fullfilled, some of them half- fulfilled some of them not.

Best Regards

Carlos

Trev 11-10-2005 04:49 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red
There was an affiliate program with God awful sites

Oh god I remember those sites... what a pile of shite they were/are...

Timon 11-10-2005 05:58 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsister

2} Other way I try is to participate on the Adult webmaster forums, I found some fellow mates, but it's a long way till I get recognized there and not accused of spamming, which I try to avoid nowadays.

It's hard work but it pays off in the end... a shortcut you can use is to find a webmaster who is already known on your target board and generally liked and give him a webmastering / promo / sig whore job.

Trev 11-10-2005 07:17 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timon
It's hard work but it pays off in the end... a shortcut you can use is to find a webmaster who is already known on your target board and generally liked and give him a webmastering / promo / sig whore job.

Are you offering your services?


I would offer mine, but no one likes me so it would do him more harm than good :yowsa:

Timon 11-10-2005 07:26 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev
Are you offering your services?

Yes for a limited time only at the extra special rate of $995 per post :p

Trev 11-10-2005 07:51 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timon
Yes for a limited time only at the extra special rate of $995 per post :p

Excellent value for money :okthumb:

Timon 11-10-2005 08:14 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev
Excellent value for money :okthumb:

Sure is, ask Dale's competitor :p

selena 11-10-2005 08:25 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Contract someone who wants to grow with your company. Depending on the quality of your site and the solidity of your program, you can probably get someone to take on this kind of thing. The methods mentioned above will work. But they take alot of time, and your time is probably better spent in other ways.

Look within your own affiliate pool.

sarettah 11-10-2005 09:06 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by selena
Look within your own affiliate pool.

They have a pool ? :unsure:

Cool stuff :okthumb:

How bout a hottub though, that would cement it for me and I would sign up as an affiliate in a moment if they have a hottub. :blink:

Open bar helps too :yowsa:

Red 11-10-2005 10:32 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev
Oh god I remember those sites... what a pile of shite they were/are...

I still get nightmares once in a while. :1nervous:

Red 11-10-2005 10:33 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah
They have a pool ? :unsure:

Cool stuff :okthumb:

How bout a hottub though, that would cement it for me and I would sign up as an affiliate in a moment if they have a hottub. :blink:

Open bar helps too :yowsa:

How about a bar in the hot tub?

Red 11-10-2005 10:35 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
I don't know if your program is two tier or not, but it should be.

Bigsister 11-10-2005 05:24 PM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by selena
Contract someone who wants to grow with your company. Depending on the quality of your site and the solidity of your program, you can probably get someone to take on this kind of thing. The methods mentioned above will work. But they take alot of time, and your time is probably better spent in other ways.

Look within your own affiliate pool.

Thanks,
I Already did.

Bigsister 11-10-2005 05:29 PM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev
Oh god I remember those sites... what a pile of shite they were/are...

By the way I am always open to constructive critics, and I listen to them very carefully.

With All Respect.

Carlos

Timon 11-11-2005 12:11 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsister
By the way I am always open to constructive critics, and I listen to them very carefully.

may I? :yowsa:

Due 11-11-2005 04:10 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Here is my 2 cents.
1: Your default language for your webmaster program is CZ.
That scares the shit out of 90% of all US webmasters, They got no clue what it is and think it is a "new russian scam" :scratchin
Change that to default English, might be a good idea to completely remove it, or have CZ on one site and EN on another. Anything that a webmaster can't understand scares him.
2: Your membership cost €30 per month, I saw no USD pricing, most people form USA want pricing listed in USD since they dont know how much 1 euro is.
If you need to have pricing in Euro, show the aproximately cost for USD.
3: You pay only ~30% to webmasters, €10.50 from a €30 membership is not going to cut it. You are compeeting with programs that pay 50% -75% recurring. No matter how much more the webmaster will earn from using your program, they see it as low income, because other people pay higher % so they will make more.
4: You have some promotion videos, why not make some galleries that webmasters can link to directly with their ref code. The more work the webmasters need to do themself, the less webmasters will signup.
5: A webmaster referral program is ALWAYS good, if you wish to grow fast, you need sigwhores on the big boards, might not bring in instant webmasters but it is good branding for you name.
6: Are you from Prague?? Partying in Pragua is fucking amazing, throw some parties with your models and webmasters :clapping:

Trev 11-11-2005 04:50 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Due
Here is my 2 cents.
1: Your default language for your webmaster program is CZ.
That scares the shit out of 90% of all US webmasters, They got no clue what it is and think it is a "new russian scam" :scratchin
Change that to default English, might be a good idea to completely remove it, or have CZ on one site and EN on another. Anything that a webmaster can't understand scares him.
2: Your membership cost €30 per month, I saw no USD pricing, most people form USA want pricing listed in USD since they dont know how much 1 euro is.
If you need to have pricing in Euro, show the aproximately cost for USD.
3: You pay only ~30% to webmasters, €10.50 from a €30 membership is not going to cut it. You are compeeting with programs that pay 50% -75% recurring. No matter how much more the webmaster will earn from using your program, they see it as low income, because other people pay higher % so they will make more.
4: You have some promotion videos, why not make some galleries that webmasters can link to directly with their ref code. The more work the webmasters need to do themself, the less webmasters will signup.
5: A webmaster referral program is ALWAYS good, if you wish to grow fast, you need sigwhores on the big boards, might not bring in instant webmasters but it is good branding for you name.
6: Are you from Prague?? Partying in Pragua is fucking amazing, throw some parties with your models and webmasters :clapping:

:yeahthat0 :okthumb:

Dravyk 11-11-2005 05:16 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah
They have a pool ? :unsure:

Only for the penguins. The whales have their own pool. :)

Bigsister 11-11-2005 12:51 PM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Due
Here is my 2 cents.
1: Your default language for your webmaster program is CZ.
That scares the shit out of 90% of all US webmasters, They got no clue what it is and think it is a "new russian scam" :scratchin
Change that to default English, might be a good idea to completely remove it, or have CZ on one site and EN on another. Anything that a webmaster can't understand scares him.
2: Your membership cost €30 per month, I saw no USD pricing, most people form USA want pricing listed in USD since they dont know how much 1 euro is.
If you need to have pricing in Euro, show the aproximately cost for USD.
3: You pay only ~30% to webmasters, €10.50 from a €30 membership is not going to cut it. You are compeeting with programs that pay 50% -75% recurring. No matter how much more the webmaster will earn from using your program, they see it as low income, because other people pay higher % so they will make more.
4: You have some promotion videos, why not make some galleries that webmasters can link to directly with their ref code. The more work the webmasters need to do themself, the less webmasters will signup.
5: A webmaster referral program is ALWAYS good, if you wish to grow fast, you need sigwhores on the big boards, might not bring in instant webmasters but it is good branding for you name.
6: Are you from Prague?? Partying in Pragua is fucking amazing, throw some parties with your models and webmasters :clapping:

1. Thanks, I thought about it too, even I am scared when I see a czech site, I was assured that this works internationally but I didn't tried it from the foreign IP, good point
2. This is another thing I aware of, I can't give away too much but there will be a the whole new and a very comfortable system for US soon.
3. Another good point, actually this is with all the processing cost included it was concipated as 40 pct. but as I noticed the big affiliate providers offer the 50 pct. standard
4. It's already about 30 galleries made, just need to register them and upload to the servers
5. This is what I am trying to do at the time, with more or less success, I must say I didn't tried to contact anyone to do this for us so I admit I don't know the ussual terms
6. Every webmaster is welcomed in our club and restaurant - www.eroticrestaurant.com

Timon 11-11-2005 01:07 PM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsister
6. Every webmaster is welcomed in our club and restaurant - www.eroticrestaurant.com

I'll be in Prague July '06. Are you going to cook a special meal for me? :p

Bigsister 11-12-2005 06:47 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timon
I'll be in Prague July '06. Are you going to cook a special meal for me? :p

Just tell us, what you will like and we will add something extra ourselves;) .

Timon 11-12-2005 07:02 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
I'm easy to please, a few pitchers of Pilsener Urquell and a comfortable chair and I'm good :p

Bigsister 11-12-2005 08:09 AM

Re: Alternate ways to promote an Affiliate program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timon
I'm easy to please, a few pitchers of Pilsener Urquell and a comfortable chair and I'm good :p

and a tasty meal plus a few girls ...


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