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.xxx TLD Near Reality
By: MJ McMahon
Posted: 2:46 pm PDT 6-1-2005


TORONTO - That .xxx TLD you first heard about five years ago? It’s about to become a reality.

.xxx was officially handed over to ICM Registry today, after they re-submitted their application to the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) to operate .xxx as a voluntary sponsored top-level domain (sTLD) last March. The TLD was first proposed to ICANN in 2000 and sat in limbo for some time.

“It took us three years to get the support of the industry and the free speech groups. We had to deal with parents and children’s groups that have their own issues. Obviously, we had to deal with trademark and free speech groups to make sure they are both secure and protected,” Jason Hendeles, vice president of strategic business development for ICM Registry, told AVNOnline.com.

ICM has invested more than $1.5 million towards developing a consensus and support for .xxx. They have worked with industry professionals to develop non-profit organization International Foundation for Online Responsibility (IFFOR), which will oversee the TLD. Webmasters who purchase a .xxx domain will agree to abide by the charter of the organization.

“As a voluntary TLD we offer the industry to chance to regularize their business procedures and become a much more legitimized industry as a result of this,” Hendeles said. “A lot of people are going to jump on it and we’re not forcing anyone to give up their .coms, but those people that are in the .xxx space are all indicating their agreement to act responsibly.”

Primarily, .xxx and IFFOR were designed to combat the scourge of child pornography.

“The application is aimed at creating an identifiable web area that will help battle child pornography, while at the same time enabling responsible adult-entertainment web site operators to self-organize and self-label on a voluntary basis,” said Stuart Lawley, president and chairman of ICM Registry.

The domain is expected to be available by the fourth quarter through any ICANN accredited registrar. With $10 of each registered domain going towards funding of IFFOR, .xxx’s will run slightly higher than .com’s.

“Ideally, those who choose to register their .xxx domain will belong to a more responsible group of adult webmasters. They will have a well funded, well respected organization to speak on their behalf as well as an established set of responsible business practices to live up to,” Hendeles said.

IFFOR will have a seven-person board of directors, some from the online adult industry, and will run without government interference.

“This approach demonstrates that voluntary initiatives that harness the power of technology and the self-organizing principles of the Internet are preferable to efforts that would impose top-down command-and-control regulation,” said Robert Corn-Revere, a partner at Davis Wright Tremaine, LLP and outside counsel to ICM Registry. “Individuals should be able to use these tools to make their own decisions about what to read or watch, and not have those choices imposed by governments. In this regard, creation of a voluntary .xxx domain is a step in the right direction.”

Asa long as they don't try and take away the .coms I have no problems with it. heck, I'll probably try and snap some nice one and two worders up if at all possible.

:)

ah fuck it ..

New.net has been selling these for ages, plus I also get weird tracking shit on my computer from visiting the site and downloading the plugin personally, so be warned

I am going to stick to dot coms ..

Great way to filter out porn.

Put it a filter to block ant .xxx domain on all office based puters etc etc...

I think I'll pass on them LOL

This may start out with "no government interference," but how long will it remain that way? Once they put us all together in a nice little group, it will be that much easier for them to get rid of us.

I think the majority of adult webmasters are responsible. How about parents taking responsibility for what their children surf. Why not make parental filters mandatory? Why not have parents pay some attention to what their kids are doing on their computers?

Asking us to change TLD's will not stop child pornography. Do they think people dealng in kiddie porn are going to "act responsibly?" It won't make one bit of difference.

I personally don't see many adult webmasters crawling on bended knees over broken glass to pick these peanuts out of the shit.

I was at the meeting with you Aly when they proposed this. There were more nays then there were yeas.

I didn't support this then, I sure as shit don't support this now.

Put us in that ghetto. Perfect.

bad bad bad bad idea

what about people who take child-related domains and point them towards porn domains? I think that draws more wrath than the fear Little Billy is going to type in dirtycocksuckers.com and not end up a Nickelodeon site.....

EXCELLENT way to filter out porn...

ok everyone volunteer their .COM domains.... who goes first? :groucho:

I'd love to know what adult industry professionals these wankers actually worked with. Anyone with a brain cell knows this is a bad thing. So I'm sure they are either lying in that article or they found a couple of celebrity morons to back them. Either way, $1.5M invested??? I can think of better things for them to have done with the money. With luck, it should be a flop.

They will make their investment back the first day.

I'm sure thousands of webmasters will flock to secure the good domains, and at $60 a pop it will add up.

Aly I sure hope like hell they are paying you enough. Heat for Internext and now this bag of shit. Since you posted it...care to comment on how you think this is a good thing?

.xxx, .info, .eu - blah blah blah... with so many new tlds then the ones winning in the end will be search engines.

Oh, and that .xxx is a very bad idea - whoever support this, must either think they will control (HAHAHA) the new tld, or they are religious fruitcakes that want to control porn on the internet (HAHAHA)...

Has .kill tld been suggested yet? :headwall:

Does AVN support the .xxx domain or not ?

”There is also a strong case for having a content-specific gTLD (and corresponding SLDs under ccTLDs) such as .xxx or .sex. Sexually explicit services could then be legally required to operate with domain names in this gTLD (or SLD under a ccTLD) that would make it much simpler and easier to control access to such sites to protect children from the whitehouse.com problem, for example. This would not be to impose censorship or restrict free speech, but would restore an effective means for consumer choice which sites like whitehouse.com subvert by exploiting that present ‘inherent propensity to confuse’). Similarly, non-commercial sites, including sites for abuse or complaint might usefully be allocated a specific SLD for that purpose.”
Tom Hymes, AVN Online

http://www7.nationalacademies.org/it...tepaper_7.html

CNN article today.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/06/0...n.ap/index.html

(same info)

They will make their investment back the first day. [/b][/quote]
From just a few people ;-)

AVN is involved in this. Without a doubt.

When we voted in that meeting, there were more NO's than Yes's.

AVN writes up the article that it we voted yes.

Why is that?

Why was Ron Levi paying for people to get into the meeting?

Very good questions for Aly, Anth!
Im sure she will come back by to respond and this wasnt a drive by.

This is what the COPA Commission said about .xxx:

http://www.copacommission.org/report...eldomain.shtml

So even COPA thought .xxx was a bad idea....

http://www.icmregistry.com/html/for_main_factsheet.html

Who are these leaders of the "global adult-entertainment industry"? Would they please stand up?

I call XXX.XXX

Nobody else register it, it's mine!!!!

People are expected to pay over the odds for domain names AND have to follow rules that can be revised at any time:

Thanks but no thanks...

This is just another ploy from AVN to make more money for themselves, and those who spend big money with them. It would not surprise me if R-n and others are invovled and will profit handsomely.

One day people will wake up and realize AVN does not care about anyon but the fat cats - mostly those from the video side.

It has been like this from day one. Too bad, eventually AVN will turn as much as the adult industry they can to the fat cats.

Don't hate the player, hate the game ;-)

An old article:

http://www.techweb.com/wire/26804584#_

Looks like Mr. Lawley was/is looking to help the FTC control the adult net... What a nice guy!

Man, that article is BS-O-Rama...

.xxx is a horrendous idea...

the blood is in the water, but does everyone know who the sharks are...

Ask TE he is our local authority on sharks.

HAHAHAHAHA

oooh

"For instance, 3G mobile-phone operators, who are beginning to be concerned with adult material traveling over their networks, could consult with ICM and the IFOR foundation for guidance."

I think not, all the 3g domains belong to me ... MUAHAHAHAHA

This is their application to icann (or part of it):

http://www.icann.org/tlds/stld-apps-19mar04/xxx.htm

Company Information: ICM Registry, Inc http://www.icmregistry.com/
Sponsoring Organization Information: The International Foundation for Online Responsibility - http://www.iffor.org/

The iffor.org domain was created the 03/05/2004, the icann application is from the 03/19/2004 - 14 days later... who is IFFOR?

For now I only have the IFFOR organisational chart:

http://www.iffor.org/images/IFFOR_Org_Chart.gif

So is IFFOR the voice that have spoken on behalf of the adult industry? And if so, who are the members of IFFOR? Have anyone heard about them before?

amsterdamnxxx.xxx

IFFOR got the support of the religious:

http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00000.html

I don't even know any "responsible adult-entertainment Web site operators "; and I know a lot of ya.

vindieselwasthebest.xxx :D

I just got this in my email from Marketwatch.

Porn-friendly Web domain on the way

By Frank Barnako, MarketWatch
Last Update: 10:56 AM ET Jun 2, 2005
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The group that manages the Internet has agreed to give adult Web sites their own dark corner of cyberspace.

The board of the Internet Corp. for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) said it will begin talks on a prospective contract with ICM Registry Inc. about the commercial and technical terms of establishing an ".xxx" domain. It could be operating by the end of the year.

Stuart Lawley, chairman and president of ICM, issued a statement saying, "Creation of a domain for adult Web sites will help protect children from exposure to online pornography." The voluntary .xxx will also "facilitate and protect free expression rights -- both for content providers and Internet users," Lawley said.

The number of adult Web sites has grown 18-fold over the last six years, he added. In an interview with Cnet last year, Lawley said .xxx domain names would cost $75.

ICM, a for-profit company with its principal office in Toronto, will handle the technical details of administering the domain.

The International Foundation for Online Responsibility, a nonprofit organization, will administer policies. A news release said the foundation's mission is "to participate in and support the development of programs and tools to fight child pornography, and to serve as a forum for the online adult-entertainment community to communicate with and pro-actively respond to the needs and concerns of the broader Internet community."

Bullshit!!!

Everytime someone gets some spam......., Microsoft , hotmail , AOL always say "Nickatilynx is responsible"

:)

More info from the past...

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5176620.html

Bullshit!!!

Everytime someone gets some spam......., Microsoft , hotmail , AOL always say "Nickatilynx is responsible"

:) [/b][/quote]
:wnw:

Man and Bat has been contacted that falls in our local jurisdiction!

This is an interesting read on how it could potentially be forced through, under the "Truth in Domain Names Act"

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,60145,00.html

Wow, here's a surprise. This industry has gangrene in a leg so the idea is to give the foot a pedicure?

Real child pornographers don't give a fuck about .com, .xxx, or dot anyfuckingthing.

This isn't going to stop them, or even put a dent in their operations. All this does is make the rest of the adult internet into a sitting duck target.

I'm not sure that AVN supports or doesn't support the .xxx situation, they're simply reporting news it appears.

amsterdamnxxx.xxx [/b][/quote]
oh I call amsterdamncumbath.xxx too :lol:

What are you calling gangrene?

Here is one more supporter, beside helmy/gigacash/asacp:

http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00003.html

http://www.lawrencewalters.com/image...image_home.jpg
http://www.lawrencewalters.com/

Ask TE he is our local authority on sharks. [/b][/quote]
:lol: :lol: :lol:

My guess what will happen next. Some local government will propose a law banning their population from having access to .xxx domains citing "community standards". ISP's will be ordered to block all access.

Then following the .us "no anonymous domain registration" edict, a similar law will come out banning anonymous .xxx registrations.

Nothing like herding your targets into a small enclosed area.

Long live King George!