I Don't know you well enough to call you R_n (at least not to your face) Fact is, I don't know you at all.

but I have heard plenty about you and the general consensus is that you are a good guy.

So, please Mr. Levy, if you would, could you please tell us why you would back someone like the Butcher ? (if you actually did back himin anyway) and are you still backing him even though it is apparent that he is either up to something dirty or he is totally clueless ?

Thank you in advance and sorry for waking up your boardtracker.

:blink:

That's what I say :huh:

Not likely to get a reply from Ron, he is entirely retired or so I hear...

this is bordering on obsession;)

Let it go sarettah, let it go...
Everything you have said or asked has been done before :)

The story of my life in the adult internet world :headwall: :headwall:




Guess I'll go invent popups or something.... :yowsa:

Too Late
Back in early 96, when I wanted to learn how to do everything, I wrote a little script that when you clicked on a button, a picture would pop up. My partner then, Doug from Dougsden...decided to take my script and use it for a Cybererotica ad when you entered one of their sites. Hence, the advent of the popup :)

I thought it was robin nixon or timon that invented the pop up?

I thought it was robin nixon or timon that invented the pop up? [/b][/quote]
That's the way I heard it too...

Hmmm...

I must politely disagree... ;)

Good to see you around Robin :)

It wouldn't be the first time you were wrong Robin

Thinking about this Robin. I am not really the type of person to air dirty laundry in public. Why not drop me an email at jim@greenguyandjim.com and I will let you know what's up. It is not about popups :)

To refresh your memory in case you don't remember who I am. I was the Jim from Ultracash back in the day. We did some business.

Damn <_<

Damn <_< [/b][/quote]
Bugger... you beat me to it :angry:

Bugger... you beat me to it :angry: [/b][/quote]
Thats because I am 6 hours earlier than you :yowsa:

Thats because I am 6 hours earlier than you :yowsa: [/b][/quote]
I knew this time difference thingy would get me in the end :biglaugh:

Hmmm...

I must politely disagree... ;) [/b][/quote]
Cybererotica invented the internet!

Cybererotica invented the internet! [/b][/quote]
Since when did Al Gore work for CE?

:o

Since when did Al Gore work for CE?

:o [/b][/quote]
:lol:


I thought he was the original fantasy man...

:lol:


I thought he was the original fantasy man... [/b][/quote]
Oh a little political humour creeping in , very nice :)

Nixon, good to see ya ;)

I always thought Robin did too, what was it called.. ABC Web ?

Yup...

This is the FIRST time ever I heard Jim make the claim...

I always thought...

It was Robin Nixon , and then Timon nicked the idea LOL

there were pops before ABC web. Robin was the first to offer a program that paid with it, AFAIK.


Jim:)

there were pops before ABC web. Robin was the first to offer a program that paid with it, AFAIK.


Jim:) [/b][/quote]
WRONG!!!!

LOL

ABC web traded traffic (I was always in the top 5) :)

Einstein Console with Timon actually paid and sent traffic.

I made 10k one pay period with them I think :)

i heard that it was Timon who came up with exit popups, but hey i could be wrong.

I doubt it :)

WRONG!!!!

LOL

ABC web traded traffic (I was always in the top 5) :)

Einstein Console with Timon actually paid and sent traffic.

I made 10k one pay period with them I think :) [/b][/quote]
yeah, you are right. ABC consoles traded traffic, it was pretty revolutionary at the time.

you are correct. foggy memory.

Ditto



usually :)

Ditto



usually :) [/b][/quote]
i was busy with all that fancy booklearnin', evidently;)

Sadly I can't lay claim to inventing pop-ups...

What happened was that in 1994 I got involved with Microsoft in the UK because I was running the UK's first Internet radio station Cyberville Radio. BBC2 came and did a big piece on us and so Microsoft contacted me because they wanted to push their Explorer browser they said "would I like to come and see some cool new stuff you could do with IE" - so off I went to MS HQ in the UK and they showed me a load of stuff without NDA!

One of these was a way to make a radio station pop-up off the page so that the audio remained playing when you changed web pages. They had only just come up with this but it was part of the spec for html and worked with Netscape too - MS just happened to be the first to use this facility.

So - off I went and created ABC-web - Active Banner Consoles - hence the name Consoles as now used. My 'invention' was to tie the pop-up in with traffic sharing programs. And Consoles were cool then - they just became so over-used it was horrible - we stopped using Consoles as soon as we saw this and moved onto the Eureka newsletter (but that's another story).

And I believe it *was* Timon that did the one thing I wish I had thought of - he beat me to the concept of the Exit Console. That was a brilliant development of the Console and we actually copied him by giving all our webmasters the option to make their ABC-web Consoles Entrance or Exit and about 80% went to Exit.

So, if Jim did that pop-up of his before 1994 then he was first - otherwise I reckon it was Microsoft & me :)

Color me stupid for asking, but how did they do a popup without javascript ? Was it straight Java back then ? Or was ther originally some "other" implementation ?

:blink:

Color me stupid for asking, but how did they do a popup without javascript ? Was it straight Java back then ? Or was ther originally some "other" implementation ?

:blink: [/b][/quote]
I stand corrected - it was 1995 when MS contacted us. Initially Microsoft were showing me their new ActiveX technology they were developing. We worked with them for about a year building a version of the radio station site that worked beautifully with ActiveX (rotating 3D logos and stuff too). And then when they released their new browser we were in the favorites of the UK edition for a while. When Netscape 2 came out in about March 1996 with Javascript & plugins we started letting our radio programs pop-up in that browser too (previously I believe we had to build a frameset to keep the player in) that's when ABC-web was formed. Initially we used the Consoles across all our Freesites seeing tremendous increases in traffic - we only brought the collective consoles out in approx January 1997 - FM was the first to sign up and had button #1.

So, in the adult arena there's no way of knowing whether Jim's implementation was before or after our Freesite consoles. But in non-adult...