What's with all the webmasters who claim to have started in '96 or '97 that I've never heard of? I guess it's possible. Maybe a lot of people just finding the boards for the first time?

I believe it is some of each. Some where just not known until more recently, some are full of shit.

Sponsors are another good one for this, paying webmasters since 96 is on a hell of a lot more programs than were in existence.

August 97 for my start

I'll admit it...


...I was pouring concrete walls in '96 :P

Ha! Colin this is funny timing... I have 1997 on one of my pages that I was about to update.. and was just thinking to myself.. "hmmm is that really correct or was I just exagerating when I put that originally on page?"

First domain I bought was 1999.. but I played around as a part time hobby on freehosts for ages.. I started when c.o.n.d.o.m. very first appeared.. think slightly before Serge dragged the Ynot crowd over I think (anyone know that date?)

Anyway.. I have an excuse of having not cared about the event to recall the date that baldbastard finally convinced me to look at adult as a way to internet riches (I was all keyed up to make websites for small companies at the time.. thank r-n he saved me!)

BUT.. you are dead right about 1997 being a popular date... I saw some tossers who write articles for a webmaster newsletter claim they had started in 97 recently... people who I first met through them asking how to get started in about 2001 :matey:


Will the rest of the Class of '97 stand up and be counted :rokk: (if you dare) LOL

This was the oldest I could find:

Subject: IMPORTANT INFORMATION - Welcome to XCash Advertising
From: xcash-support@xpics.com
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 08:03:33

I started earlier though. I think my first sponsor was via PennyWeb(?).

But... the early days were cool.
Sponsors like Cyberthrill Casino were paying .25 flat per unique. Conversion didn't matter and shaving wasn't invented yet. Made tons with them for more than a year.

Suddenly they stopped paying everyone.

Didn't matter what you emailed, they placed this auto reply on their support mailbox:


Subject: Our Final Response
From: Cyber Thrill Casino <sponsor@cyberthrill.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:25:17

Our Final Response
------------------

If you have not received a check within two weeks of the date that
the check was sent on, please stop advertising for us.

We have a sophisticated tracking and fraud control system.
The traffic you sent us has been continuously monitored.
It did not meet the required pay back criteria for this program.
Your account has been banned automatically and you will not be
paid for your past hits. Our decision on this matter is final -
please do not send any more inquiries about previous checks.

We admit that we should have informed you of this decision in advance.
However, due to the large number of advertisers and the large volume
of fraudulent activity, it takes a few weeks to gather full statistics
on each account.

Finally, if you would like a more personal advertising support,
you may contact "Cash For Clicks" at www.cashforclicks.com,
an independent agency that does advertising for us.

Thank you,

Security Department
Cyberthrill Advertising
sponsor@cyberthrill.com

There are webmasters who started back then that you've probably STILL never heard of :awinky:

in 97 I was tearing buildings down, and exporting containers of wood to Japan!

Bought my first computer in around april or may of 2002

around November of 2002 was my entrance into adult online arena.

first hit GFY ( my first board, told was the best place to start LOL) in around april or may of 2003

First convention was Jan 2003 internext.

Those were the golden days, I would KILL to go back to 1996, fresh out of high School. Al Hadhazy paying me $.02 per click and I made $300 or so a week and I thought I was GOD, lol!!!!

That was until I followed in Serge's footsteps for a while and click brokered and got my first check for $5,000.00 from ScottPB 4 months or so out of high school ;)

Colin, Serge, get a couple others, and we should put a "Prove you were around in 96-97" Quiz ;)

None of this easy Multiple Choice Shit, 500 questions... An essay describing the changes over the years, LOL J/K - Would be interesting though for a simple quiz to see how many claim they go back way than that would 'pass' :)

First Question, what was COTAC and who was John? :) And what does COTAC have to do with something else I already mentioned in this post :D

Youd be amazed at how many people still dont bother with webmaster boards. Answering a quiz isnt relevant...making cash is!

I verified mine this morning to myself. webarchive has an Oct, 1996 reference to my first non-adult business. My first two clients were adult sites and I started a 50/50 split with one of them on any traffic I could generate. Not sure how long before October that would have been.

We (Maxcash) did something like this a while ago - gave away some cash to the first person to answer all 10 questions correctly.

As I recall - Colin was one of the correct answers.

I had a piss with someone over the weekend who I've never heard of till GFY.

I know where you are coming from.

Gonzo, it was a joke mate :D

As far as I remember there were no webmaster boards in mid 1996, maybe program webmaster boards if even that. Other than that, if there were I don't remember visiting them off hand. I believe it was 1997 when webmaster boards startng popping up in droves... YNOT being the first one I remember spending time at.

Than again, just because I didn't see them doesn't mean they weren't there ...

I think Jonathon's was before YNOT. I know I was reading it before YNOT but never posted on it.

Holler? You may be right ... I remember my first paysite was cyberbitches.com

We split the profit down the middle, I believe he did it with multiple people. Joe did very well for himself and from what I hear is living a good life to this day.

damn, i guess i should have done a bit more in 1997 than looking for Adultcheck passwords. <_<

:zoinks:

Easy to prove as if that mattered

http://web.archive.org/web/19980517100453/...ertainment.com/

First I show up is 5/98, I started 8/97

ilynx.com - Record created on 08-Apr-1997

Plus I was around 4-6 mths on sh.janey.net

And a couple of mths before that on a UK host , but GBP 6000 of bandwidth in mth 1 against income of $30 , I left lol

I remeber readibng YNOT for yonks before I got the nerve to post.

my first website wasnt really a website more a sharing of information between a network of army computers to save data from being destroyed in case they got attacked in one location was in the 80's sometime although im not allowed to talk more about it due to national security .. pssh to the 90's webmasters

Wll, mine is easy... Noga drug me to my first convention in Orlando in '97. I bought my first domain shortly after...Pornpuppy.com We did the first show (Web Expo) in June '98. The first Peoples Chocie awards were a ball - no politics. We had Miss USA there & Asia Carrera.

Remember this?

http://web.archive.org/web/19990116233330/..._adult_100.html

Check out #17.

aha!!!! LOL

Check number 19 ;-))

http://web.archive.org/web/19980630033930/...com/table0.html

:okthumb:

Aren't the names interesting on those lists...lol

Oh, yeah. I remember trying all kinds of names to see what people would click on.

Very successful -> 10 free pics (I think it was the first such named site)
Big failure -> Invisible girls

I just know I was still in college when I got my start so I'm pretty damn sure it was no later than 1998.

late-98 early 99 here. I remember Serge's revolt and exit to Condom quite well.

Shit, I'd wish I knew what I knew now in the late 80's/early 90's and Usenet was the internet and bbs was big. i would have made a killing then

Oh, yeah. I remember trying all kinds of names to see what people would click on.

Very successful -> 10 free pics (I think it was the first such named site)
Big failure -> Invisible girls [/b][/quote]
LOL

I remember when I did the Condom challenge , and people went nuts when they kept seeing my titles on the top list.

"Some sick fuck is selling kiddy porn , Nick!!"
"Fuck!!! where?"
"It says "Only 15 !! Teen pics!!!"
"We'll there's only 15 pics , of a teen LOL"


For a load of webmasters it was educational. ;-))

And those were tame for some of the toplist link titles...

Wasn't it Flashcash guys that did "Rhino fucking teens" ? LOL

RawAlex must have been mad at you. I remember a debate on the subject. I defended you. ;-)

I think most webmasters lie their ass off. I know that all the folks that claim to have been there at the beginning were not known to me back when I was first inventing the internet back in 1890. (those were the days baby, ton's of free bandwidth and me and hollerith were the only two making any bling) :yowsa:

Weren't those guys called "the Rhino boys"?

If you have ever met DK, you would not be suprised he came up with such a name :D

Here's a memory. Back sometime in the 90s I had a site called "10 free pics". It was getting about 10k visitors/day circle-jerk. One day I was thinking about how the top 50's worked and realized that if I sent a lot of traffic at the reset that I would end up high on the lists. So I set my alarm to (I think) 3am (midnight PT) and set a huge font size = +4 link to adult origin on top for an hour. After the reset I was about number 10 on the list and that traffic came in and went out to other toplists. The next night I stayed up and redirected the entire front page to adult origin and ended up number one. Then I did it with Cliffies. The site site went to 100k visitors/day in less than a week. Of course, I did it for a bunch of other sites too and then all the consoles (like Robin's). I must have been pushing 300k CJ traffic/day within a month.

I did this for weeks on end. Eventually I had a list of all the reset times and would keep setting my alarm to wake up at odd hours and do it again. Then I started to burn out so I called a friend of mine from college and asked him how I could automate it. He taught me how to use the crontab to move files around at different times. Pretty brute force but it worked. (He also said we could cheat by simulating "hits "and I said I didn't want to do that - that getting caught could ruin once's rep.)

I was talking to "Fantasyman" that week and he asked me that week where I was getting so much traffic. I told him I had always had it.

One night Spanker called me at 3am and asked me what the hell I was doing. I must have been tired. I told him. Within a week he had a site with more traffic than me. He trumped me with "10 teen pics". Either he told others or others figured it out because within a few months everyone was doing it.

Years later I saw a traffic trading script that had a feature to send traffic at scheduled times.

Ryan and I talked on the phone today. We were discussing what a cocky bastard he was when he was 18! ;-)

Weren't those guys called "the Rhino boys"? [/b][/quote]
My favorite CJ link I have ever seen was "People Fucking Watermelons"

CJ sites. I remember people getting pissed because of us having 3 exit consoles on a site - saying we were fucking the surfer. Now the sponsors have 5.

Who came up with Cum Gurgling Cheerleaders?

I used to wait til YNOTs toplist reset , then kick the living crap out of it.

I wasn't that sophisticated , I just clicked it myself as many times as I could when it reset :)

That traffic was pure gold!!!

There surfers had never seen a blind link or a console in there life.

ahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha :)

I'd get caught occasionally by Khan for having popups or blinds and be removed , then I'd change the site back to nice.

Ya know...I only did CONDOM/Netpond cause they would never let me be a member of YNOT...... :(

The time when I finally went "fuck this!!" was when I got beaten in the vote by some Asian chick...shit , can't remember her site

hahahahahahahahaha!

Can't remember. Was that the guy with the nickname "Catholic" something?

Ryan and I talked on the phone today. We were discussing what a cocky bastard he was when he was 18! ;-)[/b][/quote]

I'm still cocky, just not NEARLY as Cocky as I was B)

Some of the 'debates' me and Serge had leading somehow to my nymphomaniac girlfriend will forever be etched in my mind - LOL

BTW Colin, Spank told me about that one lol... :ph34r:

In fact I enjoyed many of Top 3 spots on all the Top lists for weeks in a row. After a while it got to be like the Infoseek instant submissions, JESUS THAT WAS A NIGHTMARE!!!

Did you catch on when me and Spank started to wait the first 3 hours after a reset THAN Bombard over the people waiting for the reset? LOL

Was good talking to you earlier btw Colin - Time for me to get some ZZZzzzz's

My favorite CJ link I have ever seen was "People Fucking Watermelons" [/b][/quote]
Mine was: "Are you a moron?" Then give them a yes or no to click on.

Mine was: "Are you a moron?" Then give them a yes or no to click on. [/b][/quote]
Every Bloody Day... the top link on Anarchy Links was "Wild Rhinos"

I never knew why he used that text link... wonder if that was DK too

Wasn't there two groups of people using the name Rhino at one stage?




And.. talk about everything old is new again.. :)

http://web.archive.org/web/20010803200653/...embers/icqlist/

I started "consuming" online porn back in the BBS days, around '93. Didn't get into the business until 2001.

That fucker.

Mine was: "Are you a moron?" Then give them a yes or no to click on. [/b][/quote]
Ant, I remember calling you begging you not to release a free version of a script I was making $100k/month on.

thougth out the years we've(m3) have been around we've had a bunch of webmasters who made bank and never went to any boards, shows or anything webmaster related. Just worked and made money. I would mention something about netpond,ynot, etc...and they would have no idea or something like yeah I've seen it just dont have to the time to "chat"

It's been fun to watch the years go by for sure, can't wait to see the future :)

99 here :rokk: and My first show was Sharpies Web Expo in Montreal :okthumb:

i have a 6 cent check from IEG from Nov 96
beat that :P